Xbox One successor, Project Scarlett, revealed at E3

[sparks_E46]

https://youtu.be/RZOJW5pZWag

My thoughts, it’ll be £600 and will have a really st selection of exclusive games at launch, and will start getting good about a year in! Looks like Q4 2020.

Halo Infinite will also release on the Xbox One.

[The_Jackal]

You kind of have to assume processing and graphics performance increases as a given, but hopefully the SSD is what will really make everything feel different.

[George Smiley]

I'll wait with the one-x a little longer, at the minute the games are just not gripping - too much reliance with online multiplayer, I found Anthem suffered as when the internet was down, the game was down etc

[RobDickinson]

AMD's high bandwidth cash system should make these run well (I assume the PSx will use it too). tiered storage from ram to disk

They promise a lot on graphics (8k, ray trace, 4 * power, 120hz , variable refresh) thats a lot, Im guessing not all at once..

Zen 2 + Navi, assuming this is 8 Core 16 Thread Zen 2 + Navi APU, GDDR6 and SSD.

Should fit in $300 USD BOM they need by holiday season next year.

backwards compatible for gaming withe one

[A Winner Is You]

Will most likely buy it but, given how utterly disastrous the initial 360 and One launches were, not on release.

[alfaben]

A Winner Is You said:

Will most likely buy it but, given how utterly disastrous the initial 360 and One launches were, not on release.

I'm still bitter to this day about the 360... I put a pre order in during the e3 presentation... Was an utter shambles, put me off play.com for life as well...

[NewNameNeeded]

For the first time in however many decades I don't think I'll bother.

I remember being properly hyped about the PS4, Xbox One and Switch - and got them all on the day of release, as I did with PS2, 3, Xbox, Wii, etc.

But I'm struggling to see where even the current generation have significantly move gameplay along - let alone the next consoles.

I'm looking at GTA V and The Last Of Us - both released on the last gen in 2013 and I can't think of a single game today that has drastically moved things along that requires today's consoles to make it possible. What have I forgotten about?

Don't get me wrong - plenty of brilliant games the last few years, but 8k resolutions and a million FPS don't improve the gaming experience for me.

[p1stonhead]

8k? Will anyone even have 8k TVs by then? They are still ludicrous money.

[Alex]

Will the next generation of consoles be made obsolete by streaming game services like Google Stadia?

[Munter]

p1stonhead said:

8k? Will anyone even have 8k TVs by then? They are still ludicrous money.

By when? 3 years/6 years after launch. What's the expected lifespan of of Scarlett, that's what the spec will be for. Not "now".

[untakenname]

Alex said:

Will the next generation of consoles be made obsolete by streaming game services like Google Stadia?

I've had every iteration of Xbox but my current one is just gathering dust, last game I tried to play was Forza 7 last month but it took too long to do a mandory update so switched it off.
I've put down a pre-order of the Stadia and if it functions as performed with minimal lag then I doubt I'll spend significant amounts on another Xbox.

[P-Jay]

Alex said:

Will the next generation of consoles be made obsolete by streaming game services like Google Stadia?

That was my thoughts.

I get the feeling that hardware has outpaced the game makers. Unless they're willing to risk $500m+ over 5+ years before they see a penny back I can't see how they're going to make use of all this new processing power.

It'll end up like PC gaming, the same games with some improved arbitrary stats you may, or may not be able to display, see, or even notice.

[George Smiley]

P-Jay said:

That was my thoughts.

I get the feeling that hardware has outpaced the game makers. Unless they're willing to risk $500m+ over 5+ years before they see a penny back I can't see how they're going to make use of all this new processing power.

It'll end up like PC gaming, the same games with some improved arbitrary stats you may, or may not be able to display, see, or even notice.

This

Last week I replayed bad company 2, last night loaded bf3. Games aimed at gamers, adult gamers. Swear words. Blood.

We’ve had stuff watered down for the 12 year old gonna rape you bunch, we lost fun racers chasing the anal sim crowd.

[wjb]

untakenname said:

I've had every iteration of Xbox but my current one is just gathering dust, last game I tried to play was Forza 7 last month but it took too long to do a mandory update so switched it off.

Got to agree, I've also had all 3 Xbox's and my current Xb1 Elite is just sat gathering dust.

I'll go with the PS and maybe pick this up a year or two after release if there is anything exclusive worth playing on it.

[MintyScot]

The_Jackal said:

You kind of have to assume processing and graphics performance increases as a given, but hopefully the SSD is what will really make everything feel different.

Well knowing the ancient hardware that was being used in the ps4 pro/xbox one x you can guarantee a heavy jump in performance.

Navi performance should be in the range of the nVidia 2000 series cards and Zen2 looks promising. Even Zen1 and vega would be a big jump.

However we wont know how navi and zen2 will perform in games until next month I think and we dont know the exact specs of this custom build.

Price would be the next question....I cant imagine it will be cheap!

[sparks_E46]

I think I must be the only person in the world that doesn’t care about loading times.

[A Winner Is You]

alfaben said:

A Winner Is You said:

Will most likely buy it but, given how utterly disastrous the initial 360 and One launches were, not on release.

I'm still bitter to this day about the 360... I put a pre order in during the e3 presentation... Was an utter shambles, put me off play.com for life as well...

So how many red rings did you end up with? Given how terrible the early models were it's quite remarkable how they managed to turn it around.

[Donbot]

NewNameNeeded said:

For the first time in however many decades I don't think I'll bother.

I remember being properly hyped about the PS4, Xbox One and Switch - and got them all on the day of release, as I did with PS2, 3, Xbox, Wii, etc.

But I'm struggling to see where even the current generation have significantly move gameplay along - let alone the next consoles.

I'm looking at GTA V and The Last Of Us - both released on the last gen in 2013 and I can't think of a single game today that has drastically moved things along that requires today's consoles to make it possible. What have I forgotten about?

Don't get me wrong - plenty of brilliant games the last few years, but 8k resolutions and a million FPS don't improve the gaming experience for me.

The only game for me that I feel moved things on was Witcher 3. I bought that on pc though, as I didn't bother with this gen of consoles.

[p1stonhead]

A Winner Is You said:

alfaben said:

A Winner Is You said:

Will most likely buy it but, given how utterly disastrous the initial 360 and One launches were, not on release.

I'm still bitter to this day about the 360... I put a pre order in during the e3 presentation... Was an utter shambles, put me off play.com for life as well...

So how many red rings did you end up with? Given how terrible the early models were it's quite remarkable how they managed to turn it around.

I had three. Ludicrous.

[The_Jackal]

untakenname said:

I've had every iteration of Xbox but my current one is just gathering dust, last game I tried to play was Forza 7 last month but it took too long to do a mandory update so switched it off.
I've put down a pre-order of the Stadia and if it functions as performed with minimal lag then I doubt I'll spend significant amounts on another Xbox.

Surely that's a limitation of your internet speeds?
So you've gone and pre ordered an online streaming service that you have no idea how it will run??
Do you honestly just think believing the hype will solve your issues?
How fast is your internet and adsl or fibre?
If you are on 20mb adsl, I think you are being a bit hopeful.