RE: Bristol uprates Fighter
RE: Bristol uprates Fighter
Wednesday 25th May 2005

Bristol uprates Fighter

Idiosyncratic carmaker adds power and handling


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Bristol has announced a new variant of the barn-storming two-seat Bristol Fighter, the Fighter S, plus two performance packages, R and C, which can be fitted singly or in any combination to the base vehicle or Fighter S.

Bristol Fighter S

Bristol describes the S as a 628/660bhp car. The company -- idiosyncratic as ever -- uses two bhp figures because "horsepower increases at high speed due to aerodynamic overpressure within the air intake system". The car is unchanged externally, a ploy that Bristol reckoned "will delight those who desire the ultimate in discretion". It goes into production "shortly".

Technical Specifications (S)

  • Max power 628/660 bhp at 5900rpm
  • Max torque, 580 lb-ft at 3900rpm
  • Ported inlet manifold
  • Compression ratio increased to 10:1 from 9.4:1
  • CNC modified high flow cylinder heads
  • Larger stainless steel lightweight intake and exhaust valves
  • Lightweight rockers with 1.7:1 ratio, up from 1.6:1
  • Lighter extended rpm tappets and valve springs
  • High lift asymmetric grind camshaft
  • Modified fuel and ignition curves
  • Revised exhaust manifolds and high-now catalysts

Vehicle base price £218,000 plus VAT

Bristol Fighter R

This variant is designed, said Bristo, "for those who wish to take advantage of the Fighter’s inbuilt agility and balance", and is optional on standard Fighter and Fighter S.

Immediately recognisable from its new five-spoke alloy wheels, the R uses 285/35 R 19 tyres (front) and 305/35 R 19 (rear) to improve responsiveness, ultimate traction and road holding. Adjustable spring bases lower the ride height by 10 mm, and special lightweight competition type springs are stiffer in rate, firmer anti-roll bars and revalved Bilstein dampers snub excess body movement. Changes to caster and camber sharpen steering feel and front tyre adhesion.

To provide room for wider rear wheels and tyres the dual three-inch exhaust system is rerouted to emerge from the sills ahead of the rear wheels which provides, according to Bristol, additional horsepower and reduced weight.

The even more extreme C (competition) package, lowers the car by 15 mm lower than standard and uses exposed competition-style fuel fillers. Aerodynamic enhancements include fairings ahead of the front wheels and a vertical ‘fence’ at the rear of the car for increased downforce. Bristol reckoned the changes lower the co-efficient of drag to 0.255 -- the lowest of any production car -- improves acceleration and top speed, and enhances handling balance and stability at very high speeds.

Technical specifications (R)

  • Bristol 5-spoke wheels with forged centres and spun rims
  • 10x19-inch wheels (front) and 11x19-inch wheels (rear)
  • Tyres -- P Zero Rosso 285/35x19 (front), 305/35x19 (rear)
  • Ride height lowered by 10 mm front and rear
  • Lightweight race type springs. Rates increased by 30 per cent to 325 lb-in rate front and rear, up from 250 lb-in
  • Uprated roll stiffness front and rear. Front increased by 35 per cent and rear by 32 per cent
  • Uprated Bilstein dampers to suit
  • Steering caster increased by 42 per cent to 5.1 degrees, up from 3.6 degrees
  • Modified camber and bump steer settings at front to maximise grip and stability
  • Revised exhaust system with outlets at rear of door sills

Additional price for the above package £16,125 plus VAT

Technical specifications (C)

Optional on standard Fighter and Fighter S

  • Twin brushed alloy competition type fuel fillers on rear wings
  • Ride height lowered by 15 mm front and rear
  • Lightweight race type springs. Rates increased by 40 per cent
  • Uprated adjustable anti-roll bars. Rate increased by 60 per cent (front) and 54 per cent (rear)
  • Aerodynamic 'fence' incorporated at upper rear of body
  • Aerodynamic fairings and under panel ahead of front wheels

Additional price for above package, £16,800 plus VAT

Bristol takes pains to point out that, "we have no intention of entering our cars in any competitive events in the foreseeable future."

The standard 525/550bhp Fighter continues in production unchanged at a base price of £195,000 plus VAT.

Author
Discussion

top brake

Original Poster:

62 posts

283 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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so much for last press release dissing low profile tyres eh!

looks like their marketing guys have realised that todays cars need to actually go and handle as well as being 'stylish'

they have to plans to enter motorsport, chicken?

still leaves me cold

mnewlyn

413 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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transparent glass would be useful.

zebedee

4,593 posts

300 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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I'd like to see one on the track, but doubt they (or anyone else) would have the budget to make it competitive

hendry

1,945 posts

304 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Aw, leave them alone! I love Bristol and would have one in a flash if I suddenly discovered I was the current Duke of Bedford (wouldn't buy one with lottery money, too vulgar). A Bristol 411 is one of the few cars that can still stop me in my tracks when walking round the nicer parts of London.

Now I know there is a competition verson I might try and pull Zara Phillips at Windsor Horse Trials this weekend - that would get me one.

top brake

Original Poster:

62 posts

283 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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mnewlyn said:
transparent glass would be useful.


use the force young jedi :-)

tiga84

5,515 posts

253 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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All very impressive, I understand why they exist, but still cannot like it. I just can't. I still like the saloon, the bleinheim i believe (3S?) but just don't like it style wise.

elfboy

51 posts

250 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Oh my goodness!

Who on earth would pay that money for that rubbish!

Look at the wheels!

nickytwohats

2,093 posts

263 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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If they'd let me into the showroom I'd have mortgaged the house to buy one - instead the owner/butler/salesman/whoever merely looked up, decided I was not a Person Of Quality and shook his head before returning to the Times crossword.

Must be nice to have a business like that!

top brake

Original Poster:

62 posts

283 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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looking at the pics it would appear someone has been busy with photoshop..

Wintermute

43 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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top brake said:
so much for last press release dissing low profile tyres eh!

Does the increased size of the wheels allow for bigger brake discs and calipers? An argument which Bristol might use is that this is the "true" reason for the development of larger wheels and low profile tyres, as seen in various forms of motorsport

As for participating motorsport I believe the "Bristol brothers" have a disdain for marketing their products! Drive of the Fighter in this week's Autocar would not be approved!!

Anyway it looks quite good, and the world would be a poorer place without their "alternative" view of automotive design

b10

1,362 posts

289 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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You miserable lot. Not a bad looking motor. Better resolved designwise than many mass productions cars such as Merc, 6 series, Cayman etc. Why so much suspicion, are you all related to Clarkson???

lanciachris

3,357 posts

263 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Hmmm. it looks ok... And ok isnt good enough for something that costs that much.

FunkyNige

9,694 posts

297 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Is it me or does the side on view look like the Tamora / BMW coupe pic that appeared on PH just before the T350 launch?

faniskapetanakis

14 posts

249 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Who pays all this money to buy this car?
I can only justify such a decision for collection purposes.
Generally, Britain has a lot of independent car manufacturers. More than any other country today, I suppose.
The funny thing is that they get good press only in Britain. Well, elsewhere they don't get any press coverage at all...
All the promotion of such vehicles concentrates on the fact that they are "tailor made" or "idiosyncratic".

Let's be reasonable. With such a small budget you can't develop a proper product. Just to have a comparison, Renault developed a new A/C system and invested $40m.
With the money that companies like Bristol invest, they can only develop cupholders. They surely have all this Aeroplanes heritage, but heritage doesn't build quality cars.

Sorry If I was a bit too strict, but when I read such articles I can't hold myself....

will ferrari

114 posts

259 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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I admire Bristol, they do what they want and their buyers know that. Makes me want to be an eccentric millionaire all the more, just so I can get one.

tr3a

620 posts

249 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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elfboy said:


Who on earth would pay that money for that rubbish!

Look at the wheels!



What's wrong with the wheels? They're round and low profile, what more do you need? You can't see the bloody things from inside the car (where I'd like to be) and nobody will see them when the car is used for its proper purpose.

IMHO Bristol is to be praised for still being brave and individual.

venom500

2,984 posts

305 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Can,t be all back ....it uses a V10 Viper engine for all that power!!

kevp

587 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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I want one, any one.

And the low profile tyre size comment from the prevoius press release was for the everday car like your BMW M3/5 s etc.

peter450

1,650 posts

255 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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these cars are nice enough but like all bristols monstrously overpriced this car use a viper based engine, no qualms there its a powerful unit but how can they justify it being somthing like 4 times the price of a viper?! sorry but ia new body an bit of wood an leather dont add 200k
you only have to look at the bleinham (think thats spelt right) somthing like 200k for a car with an american v8 putting out around 350 hp i would guess, again nothing wrong with that but the engine probably costs all of 3k if ur specifiying in gold plate so how can they justify such a cost for it when a bentley is just as well trimmed if not better an has much better dynamics as well as much more advanced engineering an is 70 k less.
sorry i'm all for cars being interesting an unique but if morgan can make a car like the aeromax for under 100k then bristol are having a right laugh with there prices across the board.
If ever a car was made for those with more money than sense then bristols are it

S-X-S

719 posts

252 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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You can pick up a viper for 60k, add another 50k and get it tuned into a 800bhp streetable monster and still have money left over to pay off the mortgage, plus this car looks like it was put together out of a bathroom unit, sorry, not to my taste