Comms system recommendations
Comms system recommendations
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itcaptainslow

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4,800 posts

167 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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As above-my OH is getting into riding as well as being pillion with me so we’re after a helmet mounted communication system which will allow us to talk when on separate bikes and also when she’s on the back of mine.

We don’t want to replace our helmets (an Arai & AGV) so something that works with both of these would be ideal.

We’re also habitual earplug wearers (Auritecs) so need something that works around those.

Fire away, chaps and chapesses!

shunt

1,079 posts

256 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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Scala Packtalk for us, had issues with others failing due to water ingress and difficulty connecting 4 riders on Bluetooth. The Scalas are miles better, great at reducing wind noise pickup too.

R1 Dave

7,158 posts

294 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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My riding mates and I use PackTalk Bolds and I can't recommend them enough. Excellent bit of kit.

mellowman

352 posts

279 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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For a budget option, I can recommend the Fodsports M1-S unit - which cost me £94 for two units.

Speakers are quite beefy and have a surprisingly strong, full sound even with custom earplugs in. Relatively small clip that slots in at the base of your helmet to keep it in place, plus a sticky pad for extra security. Very easy to pair, both with multiple bluetooth devices and intercom to intercom. You can also charge it whilst using it - useful for long days when it's in constant use.

Clincher for me was the voice recognition, which works very well, across both Siri and Google Assistant and opens up an easy way to get the most from using a phone on the bike.

NS400R

507 posts

190 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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anonymous said:
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There is an option with the bold to change language to UK english away from American. That worked for us

Dog Star

17,634 posts

199 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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Cellularline Interphones here - love them.

Check out what your riding friends have got and go for that would be my advice though. All my mates with comms are on interphones, and that's IMO more important than variations in spec.

CallorFold

860 posts

164 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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Just picked up the SENA 10S (Dual Pack) from Sportsbikeshop - currently 25% off (£240). Can't comment just yet as we've not tried them out but they're praised in online reviews.

fergus

6,430 posts

306 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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Any feedback on the Sena (20s) system would be great as I'm thinking of buying one this weekend. Can you pair with an intercom which is from a different manufacturer than your own intercom with any of these systems?

shunt

1,079 posts

256 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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We had Sena 20S units last year, all 4 units failed in the rain. They aren't waterproof. They were returned to Amazon who were really good. They were also tricky to pair all 4 riders. Scalas are a huge improvement.

NITO

1,336 posts

237 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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We have 4nr Sena 20S units, they were great and have been used many times in the rain with no failures.


shunt

1,079 posts

256 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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NITO said:
We have 4nr Sena 20S units, they were great and have been used many times in the rain with no failures.
To be fair it was a serious downpour, but that shouldn't be a problem. Not fit for purpose IMO. Compared to the Scalas they gave much more wind noise at speed. The Scalas are silent at 90mph and you can still hold a conversation.

Baldchap

9,631 posts

123 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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shunt said:
NITO said:
We have 4nr Sena 20S units, they were great and have been used many times in the rain with no failures.
To be fair it was a serious downpour, but that shouldn't be a problem. Not fit for purpose IMO. Compared to the Scalas they gave much more wind noise at speed. The Scalas are silent at 90mph and you can still hold a conversation.
Mine literally went through the tail end of a hurricane on a naked bike and still works. Must have been a dodgy batch or something.

Largely academic though, because the Sena Bluetooth chat is bloody atrocious. I just use mine for music because talking with other bikes via BT is basically unusable.

SteelerSE

2,028 posts

187 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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fergus said:
Any feedback on the Sena (20s) system would be great as I'm thinking of buying one this weekend. Can you pair with an intercom which is from a different manufacturer than your own intercom with any of these systems?
I used mine for the first time as an intercom on a week away with the Old Gits and it was pretty flawless. Connecting to other intercoms was clunky but if you have two of the same it was pretty straightforward. Battery life is good (lasted the whole day with no issue) and I used it commuting into London through some biblical downpours with no issue.

But the pairing to another manufacturer will take some patience!

NITO

1,336 posts

237 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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I've not paired up with other brands, but the app helps greatly in sorting out the connectivity. We used the open channel and push to talk variants with 4 intercoms which was superb. Good range also.

fergus

6,430 posts

306 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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Thanks all. I would look to buy the version which is integrated into the Shoei GT-Air 2, so most of the kit is integrated into the helmet, so should be more protected from the elements.

doggydog33

258 posts

284 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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We had Sena 20s Evo's and they were 'ok' when there was up to 3 units paired together. More than 3 and they were absolute sh*t. Sena didn't want to know.
This year we bought Cardo Packtalk bold units. We ran 5 units and they worked brilliantly. no interference, nothing. I don't think any of the intercoms on the market have the bike to bike range that the makers claim but the Packtalk seem to be pretty good, each unit works as a relay station to the next unit. The voice commands are a bit hit and miss (you have to use an American accent, honestly!) but it wasn't a problem once paired they just worked. I use moulded plugs with speakers in and they plug in to a 3.5mm jack socket.

Regards, Doggydog.

Codotuk

580 posts

197 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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I’ve got a sena 20s evo.

Not loud enough above 60mph and every fking time I turn my head left it presses a buttons on my shoulder and does something stupid.

Wouldn’t recommend.

shunt

1,079 posts

256 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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I've got to agree with the above the senas are sh#te, the Scalas are brilliant.

black-k1

12,808 posts

260 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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We used the Cardo Scala Pack-Talk kit to connect a number of the Old Gits on the recent trip to the Dolomites. It all worked very well, was easy to set-up/connect new people etc. and did the job we wanted. Like all of the other systems also based on Bluetooth, it has range limits for bike-to-bike comms but that just adds to the excitement of trying to "drop" the other riders on the twisties. biggrin

fergus

6,430 posts

306 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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shunt said:
I've got to agree with the above the senas are sh#te, the Scalas are brilliant.
I am sensing that as a theme here thumbup