What to do with a large-ish sum of cash for the short term?
What to do with a large-ish sum of cash for the short term?
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XJ75

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498 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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We have about £300k which is earmarked for a house extension and some other things, it's currently in a Natwest savings account earning pretty much nothing.

We will need about half of it in varying increments over the next 5 months, the rest can be left for about a year or so.

I don't want to invest it, the best cash account I can see is Marcus paying 1.5%, but I'm not sure how I feel about putting it all with one provider (even if that provider is Goldman Sachs).

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks.

triple5

757 posts

174 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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50K in premium bonds?

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

241 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Woodford?

XJ75

Original Poster:

498 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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CaptainSlow said:
Woodford?
hehe

XJ75

Original Poster:

498 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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triple5 said:
50K in premium bonds?
Could do. Could even do 100k split between my wife and I.

triple5

757 posts

174 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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CaptainSlow said:
Woodford?
Naughty nono

smile

JulianPH

10,084 posts

143 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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XJ75 said:
We have about £300k which is earmarked for a house extension and some other things, it's currently in a Natwest savings account earning pretty much nothing.

We will need about half of it in varying increments over the next 5 months, the rest can be left for about a year or so.

I don't want to invest it, the best cash account I can see is Marcus paying 1.5%, but I'm not sure how I feel about putting it all with one provider (even if that provider is Goldman Sachs).

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks.
So right now you have £300k with one single provider (Natwest), but you are not sure about how you feel putting this all with one other provider (Goldman Sachs)?! smile

Nothing would really change!

The only risk you currently have is counter-party risk from Natwest. They are paying you peanuts for this.

GS will pay you more, but you could earn almost the same (whilst not exposing yourself to any risk) by spreading this money across the top 4 highest paying banks (with individual banking licences).

This is not one to over think! smile




CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

241 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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XJ75 said:
CaptainSlow said:
Woodford?
hehe
On a more helpful note..swat up on the fscs limits...use joint accounts where needed.

selmahoose

5,637 posts

140 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Right now you can get 1:6 on BlowJob being the next UK pm.

So if you want to turn £300k into £350k by 22/7/19 then get down do willy hill's right now! (because after tonite's 2nd vote odds will likely shorten)

(£1k for the tip will be appreciated) wink

Edited by selmahoose on Tuesday 18th June 17:58

XJ75

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498 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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JulianPH said:
So right now you have £300k with one single provider (Natwest), but you are not sure about how you feel putting this all with one other provider (Goldman Sachs)?! smile

Nothing would really change!

The only risk you currently have is counter-party risk from Natwest. They are paying you peanuts for this.

GS will pay you more, but you could earn almost the same (whilst not exposing yourself to any risk) by spreading this money across the top 4 highest paying banks (with individual banking licences).

This is not one to over think! smile

Good spot - I glossed over the details and importantly it's not all in the Natwest account yet (company liquidation ongoing at the moment and will complete in the next few weeks, then it will all be in the Natwest account, albeit for as little time as possible.

I noticed this which could be useful:

https://www.fscs.org.uk/your-claim/temporary-high-...

millen

688 posts

115 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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I thought Marcus anyway has a limit of £100k per account, notwithstanding the lower FSCS compensation limit.

XJ75

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498 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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millen said:
I thought Marcus anyway has a limit of £100k per account, notwithstanding the lower FSCS compensation limit.
Well spotted.

So across the wife and I, we could do 2 x £50k in Premium Bonds and 2 x £100k in Marcus.

Then only 2 x £15k wouldn't be covered by FSCS, but we would be covered for 6-months by their temporary high balance policy.

JulianPH

10,084 posts

143 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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The FSCS limit is £85k per account.

So you and your wife (assuming separate accounts) could place £170k with Marcus and up to the same again with another bank (assuming separate - not joint - accounts) providing the second bank had a completely separate banking liecence (i.e. was not a subsidiary).

That is it. It is no more difficult than that.

Please don't pay someone to advise you on this. You do not need a complicated solution to an easy situation!

PM me if you like.

millen

688 posts

115 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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PS In the past two weeks I've had to 'renew' 3 savings accounts whose initial 12-month 'bonus' rate ended. Even though it's only 15 minutes or so each time it is a right hassle and effectively a tax on those who don't calendarise expiry dates. Nationwide seems to be the only one that doesn't penalise loyalty. Must be a real pain for those with substantial cash.

Shouldn't grumble I suppose - without this dubious practice headline rates would have to be even lower to restore margins.


NickCQ

5,392 posts

125 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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If (and it's a big if) this platform does what it says on the tin then it's perfect for your needs:
https://flagstoneim.com

Spreads your cash around best buy savings accounts, keeping it all under the £85k FSCS limit.

shopper150

1,583 posts

223 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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NickCQ said:
If (and it's a big if) this platform does what it says on the tin then it's perfect for your needs:
https://flagstoneim.com

Spreads your cash around best buy savings accounts, keeping it all under the £85k FSCS limit.
Looks interesting. Does anyone have any experience of it? Safe/Protected?

shopper150

1,583 posts

223 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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shopper150 said:
NickCQ said:
If (and it's a big if) this platform does what it says on the tin then it's perfect for your needs:
https://flagstoneim.com

Spreads your cash around best buy savings accounts, keeping it all under the £85k FSCS limit.
Looks interesting. Does anyone have any experience of it? Safe/Protected?
It does say FSCS protection applies. It does seem like an easy way to split £85k per account with a single application. Therefore much safer than having a larger amount with one bank.

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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NickCQ said:
If (and it's a big if) this platform does what it says on the tin then it's perfect for your needs:
https://flagstoneim.com

Spreads your cash around best buy savings accounts, keeping it all under the £85k FSCS limit.
I'd also be interested in hearing thoughts / experiences on the Flagstone platform against say Raisin, HL or any similar..

I do like the idea of a one-stop-shop which enables cash to be spread across a number of banks where no single account exceeds the FSCS protected limit.