Worn out road markings

[Pantechnicon]

What are the rules for councils to repaint markings?, As I clearly did not realise I was entering a box junction.

[Nickyboy]

Really?

[KungFuPanda]

What did you think the remaining yellow cross crossing demarked??

[Pantechnicon]

I thought it was a Spot the ball competition, but seriously they should be better than that.

[Clivey]

Driving through Nottingham yesterday, I ended-up on a one-way street that I think had 4 lanes. I say "think" as the road markings were 95% worn away. I bet that's fun at rush hour, especially if you're not local and don't know the one way system.

[shake n bake]

Pantechnicon said:

What are the rules for councils to repaint markings?, As I clearly did not realise I was entering a box junction.

What is to the left of the box junction?

[ashleyman]

With all the money they make from these things you’d expect them to have the funds to maintain the roads.

Or. Perhaps it’s done on purpose to get more money.

[jchesh]

shake n bake said:

What is to the left of the box junction?

My guess is a fire station...

[mac96]

jchesh said:

shake n bake said:

What is to the left of the box junction?

My guess is a fire station...

In which case obstructing its exit is a bad idea, yellow box or no yellow box..
But it still leaves the question of principle- how worn do road markings have to be to become unenforceable? That box will look a lot odder from ground level, and on a wet day.

[CoolHands]

my view is always that if they want to get people on infringing rules they need to comply with the rules too. Obviously they don't like that, and for some reason people (on here as well as the big wide world) defend them.

[Pica-Pica]

jchesh said:

shake n bake said:

What is to the left of the box junction?

My guess is a fire station...

That is the most likely situation. It is surprising how many park on them, when they do not see a road there. Even more surprising is how frequently a fire engine will then exit when people are stopped on the yellow box.

[2gins]

From that perspective it's quite clear but may well be different from street level/behind the wheel. Especially if dark or wet.

Local council here were reluctant to back up a new daft speed limit with surface roundels, because although they concede it would visibly reinforce the new limit better than tiny roadside repeaters it would carry a borough wide ongoing line marking liability. They seem to hate these sorts of costs.

[Stridey]

At least appeal. Clearly got worse over time and no other signage warning of box junction, which may not be required, but I’d argue it wasn’t clear or was in the process of being removed judging by the state of that. They will take all the way to a hearing, but may back down last minute.

[Stridey]

And not a fire station...

[mac96]

Looks more worn in the overhead shot. And an odd place, now we know no fire station etc.

[xjay1337]

I would appeal.

The roads in general are in a poor state - road markings also - it's important if you don't know the area to have clear road markings.

[jchesh]

Yeah, that is weird that there's one there.

This is an interesting question which has crossed my mind before, most often with solid central lines that are almost completely worn out, or sometimes double-yellows. Do they have to be completely invisible before they're unenforceable? Is there any legislation that specifically covers this issue?

[Dave.]

OP - just how fking tall are you?

[MagicalTrevor]

I was under the impression (maybe wrongly) that the road markings had to meet the correct standard and also specific levels of visibility to be legal? Surely 90% worn markings couldn’t be deemed visible in all conditions whereas 10% worn markings would be clearly visible

[jchesh]

In the OP's photo (and subsequent ones) the double red lines are very worn as well, in places such that they appear as a single red line. Again, what's the deal?