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bad company

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21,920 posts

297 months

Wednesday 26th June 2019
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I’ve been in the USA for the past couple of weeks. The BBC blocked me from watching the women’s World Cup so I signed up for a trial with ExpressVPN. That solved the problem and I’ve since been reading that a VPN service is good for keeping my browsing etc., secure.

I’m still in the free trial period but there have been a couple of issues such as a reluctance for my iPhone to connect to Starbucks WiFi and similar with some other networks. Also I’m unable to connect my 3Mobile app to check usage unless I turn off the VPN.

My question is whether Express is the best VPN or are there others that work better?

Narcisus

9,096 posts

311 months

Wednesday 26th June 2019
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I use Norton and there VPN. Been pretty good so far.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

141 months

Wednesday 26th June 2019
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PIA (PrivateInternetAccess) for me.

Guaranteed no logs, loads of servers, reliable, never had any issues with app on iPhone.

Lazadude

1,740 posts

192 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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One of my pet hates atm is the bullst scaremongering around VPNs.

All a VPN does is encrypt your data to an endpoint, which then connects to the internet via their connection.

This is great if you're using the internet in a coffee shop or a train and want to encrypt it from people watching (Even though webpages now a days use https anyway, so the point to point is encrypted), or you want to hide traffic flow from your ISP because of region locks or adult content filters. Otherwise, if you're a normal person, on a home broadband, they're pointless.

The other fun thing to think, is all this data you want to hide from someone else on your local network, you are freely giving to this one company that supplies the VPN. Literally everything now gets given to them.

As for VPNs, if you want to use one that you pay for, PIA as mentioned above is a good shout. NordVPN too.

If you are slightly techy, you can just run a VPN server at your home and VPN to that when you're out and about. Its free and you are encrypted and there's no traffic shaping/bandwidth limitations!

Duke of Kidderminster

761 posts

158 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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run one at home instead. it's super easy to set up and costs very little for the kit. and then it's free after that

bad company

Original Poster:

21,920 posts

297 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Lazadude said:
One of my pet hates atm is the bullst scaremongering around VPNs.

All a VPN does is encrypt your data to an endpoint, which then connects to the internet via their connection.

This is great if you're using the internet in a coffee shop or a train and want to encrypt it from people watching (Even though webpages now a days use https anyway, so the point to point is encrypted), or you want to hide traffic flow from your ISP because of region locks or adult content filters. Otherwise, if you're a normal person, on a home broadband, they're pointless.

The other fun thing to think, is all this data you want to hide from someone else on your local network, you are freely giving to this one company that supplies the VPN. Literally everything now gets given to them.

As for VPNs, if you want to use one that you pay for, PIA as mentioned above is a good shout. NordVPN too.

If you are slightly techy, you can just run a VPN server at your home and VPN to that when you're out and about. Its free and you are encrypted and there's no traffic shaping/bandwidth limitations!
Thanks for that. I understand that the VPN is not necessary while I’m at home using my own broadband. It’s more for while out and about and particularly whilst abroad.

PIA looks ok but they don’t offer a free trial which puts me off a bit.

blackscooby

423 posts

311 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Duke of Kidderminster said:
run one at home instead. it's super easy to set up and costs very little for the kit. and then it's free after that
^^ This. My mother in law lives in Germany, I run a VPN on a Raspberry Pi so she can watch BBC etc. Works flawlessly.

http://www.pivpn.io/


mcflurry

9,191 posts

284 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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bad company said:
...there have been a couple of issues such as a reluctance for my iPhone to connect to Starbucks WiFi and similar with some other networks.
I believe the Starbucks free wifi doesn't work with a VPN as they're giving you the free wifi in return for your personal details.

bad company said:
Also I’m unable to connect my 3Mobile app to check usage unless I turn off the VPN.
That shows the VPN is working, as the app will think you're located elsewhere wink

boxst

3,806 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Duke of Kidderminster said:
run one at home instead. it's super easy to set up and costs very little for the kit. and then it's free after that
It may also be built into your router. Asus and FritzBox (two that I use) both have a VPN server.

gun12b

361 posts

229 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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someone put me onto these 10g free every month
windscribe

designforlife

3,742 posts

194 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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PIA for me, I pay a nominal subscription but the speeds are good and one licence is good for about 4 devices.

pigface1000

80 posts

89 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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I use Express VNP and find it very good and does not slow my internet connection down, compared to other VPNs

Order66

6,740 posts

280 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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anonymous said:
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You're not transferring anything worth encrypting - no user accounts/login, nothing. Why do you need a simple request encrypted - you are only pulling publically available information from a single page? Anyone "listening" to your traffic can see the requests the same with or without https.

Edited by Order66 on Thursday 27th June 19:55

bad company

Original Poster:

21,920 posts

297 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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I’m home now and ExpressVPN is working well. I’m just looking at how to pay without setting up a recurring payment. I don’t do Bitcoin so perhaps pay with PayPal then cancel any future payments through PP.

Anyone know another way? I hate recurring payments.

Scobblelotcher

1,724 posts

143 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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bad company said:
I’m home now and ExpressVPN is working well. I’m just looking at how to pay without setting up a recurring payment. I don’t do Bitcoin so perhaps pay with PayPal then cancel any future payments through PP.

Anyone know another way? I hate recurring payments.
If you’re at home, why would you use a VPN? You’re safer using your home connection if you’re only doing legitimate stuff in the ‘net.

bad company

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21,920 posts

297 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Scobblelotcher said:
If you’re at home, why would you use a VPN? You’re safer using your home connection if you’re only doing legitimate stuff in the ‘net.
Because I’ll be away again in a few weeks. I spend about 4 months of the year out of the country.

Scobblelotcher

1,724 posts

143 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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bad company said:
Scobblelotcher said:
If you’re at home, why would you use a VPN? You’re safer using your home connection if you’re only doing legitimate stuff in the ‘net.
Because I’ll be away again in a few weeks. I spend about 4 months of the year out of the country.
Then PayPal is your best option (discounting bitcoin for the above reason). The good thing with PayPal is you don’t have to enter your card details on sites you may not entirely trust and even if you do, the less holders of your card details the better given the enormous amount of sites that get hacked.

Fallingup

1,748 posts

129 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Nothing to do with porn, Obviously. biggrin

bad company

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21,920 posts

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Thursday 27th June 2019
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Fallingup said:
Nothing to do with porn, Obviously. biggrin
As you say, Obviously.

techguyone

3,137 posts

173 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Narcisus said:
I use Norton and there VPN. Been pretty good so far.
Do you mean Nord?