Pension Query.
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Mr.Chips

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1,239 posts

243 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Hi Guys,
I am in the fortunate position of being able to retire in 3 weeks time. My pension kicks in at the start of September and I am trying to work out just how much I will end up with. I realise that I will have to pay tax on anything over my normal tax allowance, but what other stoppages could be taken out? Will I have to pay National Insurance etc? Apologies if this is a rather simplistic question that may have been answered several times on previous threads, thanks for all positive responses.

bogie

17,079 posts

301 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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You dont pay NI once you reach state pension age. Otherwise you just pay tax on your pension income - use the calculator here and tick box for no NI if you wont pay it.

https://listentotaxman.com/


Mr.Chips

Original Poster:

1,239 posts

243 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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bogie said:
You dont pay NI once you reach state pension age. Otherwise you just pay tax on your pension income - use the calculator here and tick box for no NI if you wont pay it.

https://listentotaxman.com/
Thanks for this, the only issue is that, although I have reached the retirement age for my professions pension, namely 60, I am still 6 years away from my state pension. Consequently, does that mean I will pay NI on the pension I start getting in September?

PSRG

842 posts

155 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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NI is only paid on earned income, not unearned income which is, I think, how pension income is treated. As long as you’ve made enough NI contribution (35 years?) to qualify for the maximum state pension, assuming your eligible for one, there’s no need to make any further NI contributions as far as I’m aware. Though, I’m not an expert so happy to be corrected!

Storer

5,024 posts

244 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Mr.Chips said:
Thanks for this, the only issue is that, although I have reached the retirement age for my professions pension, namely 60, I am still 6 years away from my state pension. Consequently, does that mean I will pay NI on the pension I start getting in September?
It would probably pay you to get a bit of independent pension advice from a financial advisor.

Doesn’t have to be expensive.

red_slr

20,724 posts

218 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Have you logged into your state pension recently?

red_slr

20,724 posts

218 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Mr.Chips said:
Consequently, does that mean I will pay NI on the pension I start getting in September?
No NI on pension income.

Mr.Chips

Original Poster:

1,239 posts

243 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Thanks for all the responses guys. I have over 35 years NI contributions and therefore have enough for my state pension when I am 66. I was just concerned that I was going to have an unexpected stoppage on my professional pension. I have allowed for tax, so was just checking if there was something I had missed.
Thanks again.

ianrb

1,643 posts

169 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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You also need to take account of the 25% tax free portion of your pension. You can usually take this either as a lump sum up front or as a tax free amount each year. This doesn't apply to your state pension.


Mr Pointy

13,376 posts

188 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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Mr.Chips said:
Thanks for all the responses guys. I have over 35 years NI contributions and therefore have enough for my state pension when I am 66. I was just concerned that I was going to have an unexpected stoppage on my professional pension. I have allowed for tax, so was just checking if there was something I had missed.
Thanks again.
Have you actually checked with the Pension Forecast site that you have enough contributing years? It's not as straightforward as saying you have 35 years so that will get you a full pension (although it may do).

https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension

red_slr

20,724 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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It physically shows "full year" and lists each individual year since you are 16 years old in a big long list with a summary on the right hand side showing how many years you have and how many missing years so I assume the OP has seen this.

Mr Pointy

13,376 posts

188 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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red_slr said:
It physically shows "full year" and lists each individual year since you are 16 years old in a big long list with a summary on the right hand side showing how many years you have and how many missing years so I assume the OP has seen this.
True, but 35 years is not some magic number; I need 44 years to get a full pension.

red_slr

20,724 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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Mr Pointy said:
red_slr said:
It physically shows "full year" and lists each individual year since you are 16 years old in a big long list with a summary on the right hand side showing how many years you have and how many missing years so I assume the OP has seen this.
True, but 35 years is not some magic number; I need 44 years to get a full pension.
Ah yeah I see what you are saying. The best thing to do is log in and check really and if you have 35 "full years" you are ok.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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I reckon if he can afford to retire early then the state pension is probably a nice to have rather than a crucial difference between affluence and poverty

red_slr

20,724 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2019
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keirik said:
I reckon if he can afford to retire early then the state pension is probably a nice to have rather than a crucial difference between affluence and poverty
He is 60 not 45! The SP might not make a massive difference to him (or it might!) but if you have paid in over a lifetime you certainly want to get what you are entitled too.

I wont get my SP till I am at least 67 but I intend to get as much of it as possible. I am currently going through trying to get 6 extra years added on which HMRC are showing as "not full" despite me earning over the LEL. If any financial institution was to try and pull some of the tricks HMRC pull they would get strung up!!

Mr.Chips

Original Poster:

1,239 posts

243 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for all the responses. I have checked my current status for my state pension, apparently I need 1 more year to gain a full pension, so I may investigate the idea of paying extra, after I have retired. However, the shortfall is about £4 a week, so if the cost of the extra is too much, I may just leave it.
Apart from that, everything is now set in motion, so I am just waiting for the next 12 working days to pass.
Thanks again for your responses.
beer