Hybrid (Range rover sport or I8) as company car ?
Hybrid (Range rover sport or I8) as company car ?
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phib

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4,520 posts

288 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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Having a biy of change indirection having run my own business for years and potentially going back to work for someone.

Will be doing 20k -30k per year.

Looking at options of car allowance and .45p per mile ( yes I know this is not normal)

Or going RRS p400 or I8 looks like its going to cost me £600-£750 a month in tax. ( have a normal RRS now)

Havent done company cars for 20 years. So way out of touch.

Can only see hybrids working in the current company car tax system ? or am I missing something

Any views ?

Phib

dmsims

7,450 posts

296 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2019
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You need to plan carefully

The plan! is that from 2020 BiK will be cut to 2% for electric vehicles

For plugin hybrids it depends on EV range and emissions - both the one you have mentioned are poor

So although the P400e can do 31 miles EV (yeah right) it emits 64g/km of CO2 which means 17% BiK



Edited by dmsims on Monday 8th July 10:06

ZX10R NIN

30,525 posts

154 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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As above be careful, isn't buying or using your current car an option?

phib

Original Poster:

4,520 posts

288 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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Yes have option of using my own car, which really i need to change for a new or newer one as is done 132k now and whilst all ok getting to the point where its going to be agro / start costing.

Always buy cash but think as money is cheap I will hp or pcp the next one.

So looking at say a 2nd hand RRS at say £50k, it looks like it would be £700ish a month payment which seems to the face of it to be the same as leasing a hybrid?

Going to be flat out for the next 3 years and dont really fancy any car agro, I have 3 other fun cars at home that cause enough grief !!!


ZX10R NIN

30,525 posts

154 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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Take a look at the Jeep Grand Cherokee either new or Ex demo (some dealers are offering finance contributions on used models too) as they come with a 5 year warranty/assistance 3 years free servicing all of which leaves you to spend money on your toys.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

NDA

25,557 posts

254 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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phib said:
Or going RRS p400 or I8 looks like its going to cost me £600-£750 a month in tax. ( have a normal RRS now)

Havent done company cars for 20 years. So way out of touch.
I can't advise as, like you, I haven't a company car for many years.... they used to be the 'thing' to have until the gubbermint taxed the perk out of existence.

But if you're going to be paying £750 a month in tax on a company car, wouldn't it be better to lease one? The tipping point between a company car Vs a personal one must be very close.

dmsims

7,450 posts

296 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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Tricky position to be in ATM

If leasing/PCP watch out for mileage limits which could add a few hundreds to the monthly bill

I have no idea whether your journey profile will fit but Evezy might! be worth consideration (15K annual mileage limit)

Edited by dmsims on Thursday 4th July 10:47

AstonZagato

14,149 posts

239 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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I have a hybrid Range Rover (not a RRS). They are great for my particular needs (lots of short journeys with a few 500 mile ones to remote, non-charging spots) but, to be honest, I'd be looking at a Tesla, if you can charge at home and work and you have a route that takes you past Superchargers. We have a Tesla MX100 and it makes the Rangie (well, any petrol car) feel slow.

I drove an i8 Roadster the other day and was very impressed. However, I drove it in sport mode everywhere and then the hybrid is more of a KERS system, so it remains pretty much fully charged all the time. Good for performance, but really does nothing for fuel economy. In the end, I couldn't really fall in love with it.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

281 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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dmsims said:
You need to plan carefully

The plan! is that from 2021 BiK will be cut to 2% for electric vehicles
2020 - next April BIK is 2% for EV's

dmsims

7,450 posts

296 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Tiggsy said:
2020 - next April BIK is 2% for EV's
Thanks my error - I have edited the original - maybe you can edit your quote ?

phib

Original Poster:

4,520 posts

288 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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Is that 2% for ev only or also for hybrid

Poppiecock

943 posts

87 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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Isn’t the answer BMW 530e or 745e?

Not a big SUV, but very tax efficient as company cars.

phib

Original Poster:

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288 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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Maybe but I had so many 7 series’s about 10 years ago really don’t want another dull saloon

phib

Original Poster:

4,520 posts

288 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Thanks for all the replies, there really doesn't seem much in it for me.

Rrs will be 18% in next couple of years and will be c. 600pcm in tax + 600 in lost car allowance.

£1200 for an £80k car with no hassles seems ok but I Wouldn't ever choose one but its needs must at the moment


Pure Ev's don't work for me, not enough charging points and regularly do 260+ miles in a day.

Thanks

Phib

jonah35

3,940 posts

186 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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I got a 2019 Range Rover Autobiography p400 earlier this year

It went back to the garage to be repaired many times

Ultimately it was that unreliable I gave it back and lost a packet

Glad to be rid

Have a lot of presence but you can feel the new facelift version is essentially an old car underneath now with just some new tech screens

30mpg isn’t too bad

Overall a bad car for the money sadly

jonah35

3,940 posts

186 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Look at a Panamera e hybrid Sport Turismo

Company cars still great for big mileage

Tesla also good but I don’t think good enough yet

jonah35

3,940 posts

186 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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X5 new hybrid is 3 litre
Way more modern and drives way better than a range
Tech on board great and works better than rand with tech pack and comfort pack plus

Maybe the image isn’t as good though

dmsims

7,450 posts

296 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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jonah35 said:
X5 new hybrid is 3 litre
Maybe the image isn’t as good though
You think the other one has a positive image ?

phib

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288 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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I actually drove a Panamera hybrid yesterday just trying to see if the lease costs work.

It’s £85k new and the needs about £20k extras when I configured it.

Thanks

Phib