Mot fail on headlight beam height, self levelling sensor?
Mot fail on headlight beam height, self levelling sensor?
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robbocop33

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1,207 posts

138 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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Just failed an mot on my mk2 megane, one headlight is too high. Seemingly a tilt sensor for the headlight self levelling system is missing? A what? Anyway, i'm thinking is this really an mot fail that this is missing, surely headlight can still be adjusted manually?
This tilt sensor sits on the wishbone seemingly. Thanks.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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Has it failed because the sensor is missing? Or because the headlight is too high?


Dogwatch

6,384 posts

253 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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Who nicked the sensor? Is this a case for Clouseau?

Or maybe just a previous owner cutting costs

robbocop33

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1,207 posts

138 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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Dogwatch said:
Who nicked the sensor? Is this a case for Clouseau?

Or maybe just a previous owner cutting costs
It's been missing since i bought it, i always wondered what the multi plug connector hanging down was? Now i know,!, anyway, official fail is 'Headlamp levelling device inoperative nearside front'.
Quick glance through mot site says this regarding self levelling systems, "Where such systems are fitted, they must work however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given."
I feel as long as lighting system works, as it does perfectly, i don't know why the one headlight that is slightly too high can't be adjusted manually with the hex adjuster on top of the headlight motor?? Then get on with my life,?
I questioned mot guy, why can't that light just be manually adjusted to get through mot,? He just said that missing levelling sensor 'has' to be there!

Edited by robbocop33 on Thursday 4th July 18:51

E-bmw

13,606 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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robbocop33 said:
Dogwatch said:
Who nicked the sensor? Is this a case for Clouseau?

Or maybe just a previous owner cutting costs
It's been missing since i bought it, i always wondered what the multi plug connector hanging down was? Now i know,!, anyway, official fail is 'Headlamp levelling device inoperative nearside front'.
Quick glance through mot site says this regarding self levelling systems, "Where such systems are fitted, they must work however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given."
I feel as long as lighting system works, as it does perfectly, i don't know why the one headlight that is slightly too high can't be adjusted manually with the hex adjuster on top of the headlight motor?? Then get on with my life,?
I questioned mot guy, why can't that light just be manually adjusted to get through mot,? He just said that missing levelling sensor 'has' to be there!
Well he is right & unfortunately as he has seen that it is missing, until it is seen to be not missing it is a fail.

You could always adjust it correctly & then take it somewhere else who may not see it missing if you hide it, but at the end of the day if you read what you put above yourself, there is no doubt it is a fail unfortunately.

It is fitted but not working & as a major part of it isn't there then the "benefit of doubt" clause to allow a pass clearly can't be invoked.

robbocop33

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1,207 posts

138 months

Thursday 4th July 2019
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Thanks for that. Particularly annoying since it passed mot like this last year with previous owner though.

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

315 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Buy and fit something that is / looks like the correct module?

Sampr96

4 posts

89 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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Just had the same on my Kia. Outrageously frustrating not gonna lie. Been advised to manually adjust the headlight to make sure the beam is in alignment, then tape the switch and go get it tested.

“In theory they cannot test something which is not there, if the headlights are in alignment then what can they do, they cannot touch or change anything, I.e take a switch cover off”

I have no idea how accurate what this guy has said is right, but that’s what I’m gonna do, see how it goes!

Coilspring

577 posts

94 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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You know those oncoming headlights that dazzle you !

Its often because the self levelling system isn't working. Hence the mot test requirement.

Has it had a headlamp replaced, or body damage maybe?


E-bmw

13,606 posts

183 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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Sampr96 said:
Just had the same on my Kia. Outrageously frustrating not gonna lie. Been advised to manually adjust the headlight to make sure the beam is in alignment, then tape the switch and go get it tested.

“In theory they cannot test something which is not there, if the headlights are in alignment then what can they do, they cannot touch or change anything, I.e take a switch cover off”
Few points to not.

You say "tape the switch" - I assume you are referring to the "aim adjustment" in the cabin, that isn't the same thing, the failure above is on an automatic system that is load related.

You say they "cannot test something which is not there" - But unfortunately if it should be there & obviously is not there it is still a failure if the tester sees that. Otherwise by your logic if you have a crack on your windscreen but remove it for the test it would pass.

Taita

8,015 posts

234 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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My leveller broke on my Mazda 6 and the parts were like hens teeth from a breakers or 250quid from a dealer.

I dremeled the leveling arms etc off, then tucked the sensor part behind the lining.

It was only ever me in the car so no issues with dazzling