Bernie's big idea

[entropy]

Teams Championship

Spec car, manufacturer to supply engine to last a season; refuelling

https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/27059276/bern...

[mikecassie]

Obviously he's feeling left out so needs to speak ste to get heard again.

[anonymous-user]

Wow. There’s so much wrong about all that.

Unbelievable, even from Bernie.

[The Vambo]

The people who think Bernie is stupid are the same ones who react like Pavlov's dog every time.

Will you never learn?

[Kraken]

Bernie is the ultimate troll and people still fall for it.

[entropy]

Not surprised by the reactions so far.

I actually think a Teams Championship is a good idea. It just needs refining.

It reminds me of MotoGP's Open Class. A crap idea on paper, unpopular but it helped evolve MotoGP to be more equal and competitive today.

[GB4 JEV FFS]

entropy said:

I actually think a Teams Championship is a good idea. It just needs refining.

4 characters "A1 GP"

[FourWheelDrift]

He sounded like his needed a full time carer when interviewed by Brundle on the grid last time.

[TheDeuce]

FourWheelDrift said:

He sounded like his needed a full time carer when interviewed by Brundle on the grid last time.

Yes. Someone to care so that he doesn't have too. His interview with Rosberg on his channel was equally perplexing and devoid of normality.

Bernie is interesting though. He's devious, clever, sly - yet appears driven by a desire to be successful and provide for those close to him. He isn't an evil or awful man, he's just a bit... of a git. It's as if he's deliberately obtuse and offensive, yet at the same time somehow warm and humorous.

In the end, I don't think he care's very much anymore - his crown has been snatched. He plays his games, nothing is straight, ever. If he winds people up and makes them want the opposite of what he wants, there is a good chance that what he really wants is the opposite of the thing he just made you fight against

He's probably fully out of power and is just waffling at this stage. I'd hold short of being certain though. He's one hell of a player and perfectly happy to make a bellend of himself in the media to steer something his own way. Whatever he says, it's more likely related to what he wishes his audience to think, than what he thinks.

[entropy]

GB4 JEV FFS said:

4 characters "A1 GP"

You referring to spec cars? Doesn't have to be spec cars. Just look at how MotoGP and Suzuki and how they managed to climb up the ladder.

There has to be a framework in the regs to incentivise the small teams to be much more competitive with the current big three. Allow customer cars and give those teams more testing.

Or we could twiddle our thumbs and hope the 2021 rules create a different natural order that will eventually remain static.

[Mr Pointy]

TheDeuce said:

Bernie is interesting though. He's devious, clever, sly - yet appears driven by a desire to be successful and provide for those close to him. He isn't an evil or awful man, he's just a bit... of a git. It's as if he's deliberately obtuse and offensive, yet at the same time somehow warm and humorous.

If you'd ever had dealings with him your views might be different.

[TheDeuce]

Mr Pointy said:

TheDeuce said:

Bernie is interesting though. He's devious, clever, sly - yet appears driven by a desire to be successful and provide for those close to him. He isn't an evil or awful man, he's just a bit... of a git. It's as if he's deliberately obtuse and offensive, yet at the same time somehow warm and humorous.

If you'd ever had dealings with him your views might be different.

Well... Feel free to expand upon that comment

[entropy]

Mr Pointy said:

TheDeuce said:

Bernie is interesting though. He's devious, clever, sly - yet appears driven by a desire to be successful and provide for those close to him. He isn't an evil or awful man, he's just a bit... of a git. It's as if he's deliberately obtuse and offensive, yet at the same time somehow warm and humorous.

If you'd ever had dealings with him your views might be different.

He's very well respected and a lot of people in F1 have a lot of time for him though greatly less so with race promoters.

He's a wheeler dealer who loves doing a deal. He's like Clint Eastwood, The Man With No Name - but without the charisma - who enjoys playing one side off against the other and enriching himself.

[Kraken]

From what I've read on F1 forums and comment sections over the years there is no way the fan base would accept MotoGP style team concessions in F1 and the various FIA surveys have said the same. Fans want all the teams on a level field or let them all do what they want not a fudged up mix of both.

[Mr Pointy]

TheDeuce said:

Mr Pointy said:

TheDeuce said:

Bernie is interesting though. He's devious, clever, sly - yet appears driven by a desire to be successful and provide for those close to him. He isn't an evil or awful man, he's just a bit... of a git. It's as if he's deliberately obtuse and offensive, yet at the same time somehow warm and humorous.

If you'd ever had dealings with him your views might be different.

Well... Feel free to expand upon that comment

Not yet. Maybe some day in the future.

[Teddy Lop]

FourWheelDrift said:

He sounded like his needed a full time carer when interviewed by Brundle on the grid last time.

He seemed pretty far gone didn't he.

We all assumed his vagueness and arrogance was his way of doing business but I wonder now.

[entropy]

Kraken said:

From what I've read on F1 forums and comment sections over the years there is no way the fan base would accept MotoGP style team concessions in F1 and the various FIA surveys have said the same. Fans want all the teams on a level field or let them all do what they want not a fudged up mix of both.

Really?

Wholly positive: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/motogp-concessi...

Mixed: https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/7jrtkn/...

Fans want to see more testing, higher flow rates, larger fuel tank; you could give those to lesser teams in exchange for say building a car that has less downforce - the MotoGP Open Class became a Trojan Horse to allow control ECU.

[Kraken]

I'd love to see higher fuel flow rates etc but that doesn't mean I want some teams to have it and others not. I could just about stomach it for a team brand new (not a team bought out) but it's highly unlikely any new team would come in even with concessions like that.

[FourWheelDrift]

Engines. Any team that have not won a race in the previous 2 seasons have an additional 3 engines/PUs extra for the year. At the moment that would just be Renault. But would include any new engine supplier.

Teams. Any team that hasn't won in the previous 2 seasons are given 8 in-season test session at any circuit not part of the championship, 6 full days in a full size wind tunnel and 3 sets of extra tyres for the race weekend. That would include Alfa Romeo, Torro Rosso, Racing Point, Williams, Haas plus Renault & McLaren who would also have the engine concessions.

But I would imagine Mercedes and Ferrari would veto it.

[DS240]

FourWheelDrift said:

He sounded like his needed a full time carer when interviewed by Brundle on the grid last time.

He always had a certain style of replying or twisting the answer if he didn’t want to do a straight reply... but he definitely came across like he’d gone a bit senile.

I’ve lost track now of how much power or influence he has now on F1. Of course he is seriously wealthy, but I don’t know how many strings he can still pull.

He does simply come across as trying to be out spoken for the sake of some attention now.