981 GT4 vs 991.1 GT3 vs 570s
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I would say £30k difference is nearer the mark.
991.1 GT3 and 570s are in a different league to the GT4 which is a decent package as a road car imo but basically the non GT strangled and detuned Carrera S engine is a let down.
If you want a rev hungry and charismatic n.a. engine and brilliant road/track car then the GT3 provides this and more in spades and is the obvious choice. Reliability also backed up by Porsches long term warranty. Residuals have been excellent with even 5+ year old cars with mileage still selling for near enough list £.
570S more expensive to warranty and main dealers attitude together with reliability issues are the obvious bugbears which has and is continuing to result in horrific depreciation which will continue making these cars costly to run and own compared to both Porsches GTs.
Manual n.a., PDK n.a. or auto turbo?
Try borrowing each car for minimum half a day and running costs aside this will probably give you an answer as to which suits you best.
991.1 GT3 and 570s are in a different league to the GT4 which is a decent package as a road car imo but basically the non GT strangled and detuned Carrera S engine is a let down.
If you want a rev hungry and charismatic n.a. engine and brilliant road/track car then the GT3 provides this and more in spades and is the obvious choice. Reliability also backed up by Porsches long term warranty. Residuals have been excellent with even 5+ year old cars with mileage still selling for near enough list £.
570S more expensive to warranty and main dealers attitude together with reliability issues are the obvious bugbears which has and is continuing to result in horrific depreciation which will continue making these cars costly to run and own compared to both Porsches GTs.
Manual n.a., PDK n.a. or auto turbo?
Try borrowing each car for minimum half a day and running costs aside this will probably give you an answer as to which suits you best.
I guess the first question to ask yourself if why you are looking to change, and what do you want to get from it?
Only you can really answer what it is you want.
av185 said:
If you want a rev hungry and charismatic n.a. engine and brilliant road/track car then the GT3 provides this and more in spades and is the obvious choice. Reliability also backed up by Porsches long term warranty. Residuals have been excellent with even 5+ year old cars with mileage still selling for near enough list £.
570S more expensive to warranty and main dealers attitude together with reliability issues are the obvious bugbears which has and is continuing to result in horrific depreciation which will continue making these cars costly to run and own compared to both Porsches GTs.
Or if you want a genuine looking supercar with all the drama that goes with one including the looks, doors and ballistic pace, then the 570S if the one for you. If standing out from the crowd is not for you, then probably avoid one. 570S more expensive to warranty and main dealers attitude together with reliability issues are the obvious bugbears which has and is continuing to result in horrific depreciation which will continue making these cars costly to run and own compared to both Porsches GTs.
Only you can really answer what it is you want.
A couple a things are pushing me out of the GT4, namely the preoccupation with mileage and the whole Porsche dealership experience.
If you use the GT4 as it's intended and put some mileage on it, the resale market shrinks massively. I was at a car meet last year and the other GT4 owners were gobsmacked that I use the car on track.
When I was picking up my GT4 from a local dealership after the gearbox recall had been done, I enquired about a 2014 991 Clubsport and was politely shooed away after being looked up and down.
McLaren were completely the opposite. Cracking bunch of lads at Leeds and we very nearly came to deal on an used 570s. The things that put me off were the warranty costs for yrs 2&3 also that they didn't offer a gfv with their pcp products.
If you use the GT4 as it's intended and put some mileage on it, the resale market shrinks massively. I was at a car meet last year and the other GT4 owners were gobsmacked that I use the car on track.
When I was picking up my GT4 from a local dealership after the gearbox recall had been done, I enquired about a 2014 991 Clubsport and was politely shooed away after being looked up and down.
McLaren were completely the opposite. Cracking bunch of lads at Leeds and we very nearly came to deal on an used 570s. The things that put me off were the warranty costs for yrs 2&3 also that they didn't offer a gfv with their pcp products.
Edited by northerner on Monday 8th July 00:07
isaldiri said:
northerner said:
McLaren were completely the opposite. Cracking bunch of lads at Leeds and we very nearly came to deal on an used 570s. The things that put me off were the warranty costs for yrs 2&3 .
Um, Mclaren have a 3 year manufacturer warranty.I’ve been looking at trading my GT4 for a 570S or Spider.
Got close to a deal but I’m scared of the depreciation on the 570 and the partex offer on my single owner 22000 mile GT4 was a little low at £60k. (List £83k). Not considered a GT3 but have owned one before the GT4. I prefer the GT3 and if I could have bought one new at any time in the last 2 years I would have.
I think a well purchased 570 could be a clever move.
Got close to a deal but I’m scared of the depreciation on the 570 and the partex offer on my single owner 22000 mile GT4 was a little low at £60k. (List £83k). Not considered a GT3 but have owned one before the GT4. I prefer the GT3 and if I could have bought one new at any time in the last 2 years I would have.
I think a well purchased 570 could be a clever move.
Just go and try then buy one of these.
https://www.jzmporsche.com/used-vehicle-details/Po...
Fab thing.
https://www.jzmporsche.com/used-vehicle-details/Po...
Fab thing.
northerner said:
A couple a things are pushing me out of the GT4, namely the preoccupation with mileage and the whole Porsche dealership experience.
If you the GT4 as it's intended and put some mileage on it, the resale market shrinks massively. I was at a car meet last year and the other GT4 owners were gobsmacked that I use the car on track.
When I was picking up my GT4 from a local dealership after the gearbox recall had been done, I enquired about a 2014 991 Clubsport and was politely shooed away after being looked up and down.
Sheffield or Leeds?If you the GT4 as it's intended and put some mileage on it, the resale market shrinks massively. I was at a car meet last year and the other GT4 owners were gobsmacked that I use the car on track.
When I was picking up my GT4 from a local dealership after the gearbox recall had been done, I enquired about a 2014 991 Clubsport and was politely shooed away after being looked up and down.
I would change your OPC.
I used to track my GT4 a fair bit - made a very sound track day car, fast enough and sufficiently challenging getting the last 5 percent to keep me engaged. they also are pretty strong little cars, so don't cost a great deal in terms of consumables. GT3 will cost more to track, due weight and the extra performance that the engine generates. I swapped my GT4 for a 991.2 GT3 touring, but I confess I do miss the GT4 sometimes. I've driven a 570S and it makes a lovely road car, but not sure I would be brave enough to track one hard though, for fear of costs.
depends what you are looking for from the car, but I'd just stick with the GT4 and stop worrying about miles/values, as an upgrade will only worsen these concerns.
depends what you are looking for from the car, but I'd just stick with the GT4 and stop worrying about miles/values, as an upgrade will only worsen these concerns.
seawise said:
I used to track my GT4 a fair bit - made a very sound track day car, fast enough and sufficiently challenging getting the last 5 percent to keep me engaged. they also are pretty strong little cars, so don't cost a great deal in terms of consumables. GT3 will cost more to track, due weight and the extra performance that the engine generates. I swapped my GT4 for a 991.2 GT3 touring, but I confess I do miss the GT4 sometimes. I've driven a 570S and it makes a lovely road car, but not sure I would be brave enough to track one hard though, for fear of costs.
depends what you are looking for from the car, but I'd just stick with the GT4 and stop worrying about miles/values, as an upgrade will only worsen these concerns.
Would tend to agree with this - either keep what you've got - or try to order a new GT4... although it will take a year or longer to arrive.depends what you are looking for from the car, but I'd just stick with the GT4 and stop worrying about miles/values, as an upgrade will only worsen these concerns.
Or switch brands to something like a used Exige 350 if tracking is your primary usage?
DJMC said:
Buy a McLaren and you'll be preoccupied with when the low loader is going to be there... often.
That was the recent experience of our neighbour. Same with his Vantage before that.
Prior to that his R10 and than Gallardo gave no issues whatsoever.
Buy British, buy trouble.
More internet scare mongering.That was the recent experience of our neighbour. Same with his Vantage before that.
Prior to that his R10 and than Gallardo gave no issues whatsoever.
Buy British, buy trouble.
All cars have troubles including porsche.
The 570 is probably the best value sports car verging on supercar on the market now for road and track.
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