Don't often see one of these...
Don't often see one of these...
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Sixpackpert

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5,099 posts

238 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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...in Gloucestershire airspace.



Flew over on Friday afternoon heading west.

CanAm

13,066 posts

296 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Hard to tell from a silhouette; Catalina?

Composite Guru

2,448 posts

227 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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CanAm said:
Hard to tell from a silhouette; Catalina?
Yes its the one from Duxford I think.

Sixpackpert

Original Poster:

5,099 posts

238 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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CanAm said:
Hard to tell from a silhouette; Catalina?
Yep!

aeropilot

39,791 posts

251 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Composite Guru said:
CanAm said:
Hard to tell from a silhouette; Catalina?
Yes its the one from Duxford I think.
Can't really be any other one given its now the only airworthy Cat in Europe.


eccles

14,206 posts

246 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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It was probably heading to Swansea, they had a big airshow at the weekend.

Paul-427

79 posts

110 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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If the one from Duxford is the only one flying in Europe, has something happened to this one I saw in France last year ?

aeropilot

39,791 posts

251 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Paul-427 said:


If the one from Duxford is the only one flying in Europe, has something happened to this one I saw in France last year ?
Yes, its been sold to a new owner from Oregon, USA, and it was flown back across the Atlantic to its new home about a month ago.

Brother D

4,353 posts

200 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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I think this was over Bedfordshire way


Paul-427

79 posts

110 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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aeropilot said:
Paul-427 said:


If the one from Duxford is the only one flying in Europe, has something happened to this one I saw in France last year ?
Yes, its been sold to a new owner from Oregon, USA, and it was flown back across the Atlantic to its new home about a month ago.
Ahh, ok thanks.

Riley Blue

22,963 posts

250 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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The Duxford Catalina will be on static display at the July 20th evening show at Old Warden: https://www.shuttleworth.org/events/julyeveningair...


anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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aeropilot said:
Yes, its been sold to a new owner from Oregon, USA, and it was flown back across the Atlantic to its new home about a month ago.
Blimey that must have been one hell of a trip. Surprisingly long range weren’t they?

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

225 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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You can fly the North Atlantic in a series of small-ish hops taking a Northern route via Scotland->Faroe Isles-> Iceland -> Greenland -> Canada.

Short haul regional airliners use the route frequently for delivery flights and you'll find stories of people doing it to move light aircraft they've bought in the States to Europe. I imagine the Canadian Lancaster came and went that way when it came to Europe a couple of years ago.

Still an epic flight for a historic aircraft though I agree.


Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Seight_Returns said:
You can fly the North Atlantic in a series of small-ish hops taking a Northern route via Scotland->Faroe Isles-> Iceland -> Greenland -> Canada.

Short haul regional airliners use the route frequently for delivery flights and you'll find stories of people doing it to move light aircraft they've bought in the States to Europe. I imagine the Canadian Lancaster came and went that way when it came to Europe a couple of years ago.

Still an epic flight for a historic aircraft though I agree.
Someone's planning to do it in a Spitfire in a few months.

https://www.silverspitfire.com/

Eric Mc

124,932 posts

289 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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If you watch the TV series "Dangerous Flights" you can see the types of aircraft and pilots which take very long delivery flights - often half way round the world.

When I was a keen plane spotter in the 1970s, a trip to Shannon Airport would always result in the spotting of light aircraft which had either just arrived from an Atlantic flight or were getting ready to cross the Atlantic.

As for the Catalina, it had a very special wing (called the Davis Wing) which gave it very good range - obviously deliberately designed that way to allow it to be an effective oceanic patrol aircraft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_wing

During World War 2, thousands of aircraft were ferried across the Atlantic.

generationx

8,890 posts

129 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Beautiful - what happened to the Netherlands-based flight/sea-worthy one? My boss had a trip in it a couple of years ago.

aeropilot

39,791 posts

251 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Seight_Returns said:
You can fly the North Atlantic in a series of small-ish hops taking a Northern route via Scotland->Faroe Isles-> Iceland -> Greenland -> Canada.

Short haul regional airliners use the route frequently for delivery flights and you'll find stories of people doing it to move light aircraft they've bought in the States to Europe. I imagine the Canadian Lancaster came and went that way when it came to Europe a couple of years ago.

Still an epic flight for a historic aircraft though I agree.
Faroe Isles don't usually figure in the routing for the heavy stuff, or even for a P-51, they can all do the Scotland-Iceland hop.

The Catalina was working its back to the USA as all the USA based DC-3/C-47's were making their over in the opposite direction to Europe for the D-Day events, and just prior to that a USA based P-51D was making the trip over to UK as well, but it went tech just before it was about to make the over-water crossing from Goose to Greenland, so never made it to UK, and it had to return to its US base.


CanAm

13,066 posts

296 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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Here's the other one flying over Beachy Head at Airbourne 2010


yellowjack

18,139 posts

190 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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aeropilot said:
Seight_Returns said:
You can fly the North Atlantic in a series of small-ish hops taking a Northern route via Scotland->Faroe Isles-> Iceland -> Greenland -> Canada.

Short haul regional airliners use the route frequently for delivery flights and you'll find stories of people doing it to move light aircraft they've bought in the States to Europe. I imagine the Canadian Lancaster came and went that way when it came to Europe a couple of years ago.

Still an epic flight for a historic aircraft though I agree.
Faroe Isles don't usually figure in the routing for the heavy stuff, or even for a P-51, they can all do the Scotland-Iceland hop.

The Catalina was working its back to the USA as all the USA based DC-3/C-47's were making their over in the opposite direction to Europe for the D-Day events, and just prior to that a USA based P-51D was making the trip over to UK as well, but it went tech just before it was about to make the over-water crossing from Goose to Greenland, so never made it to UK, and it had to return to its US base.
An hour-long youtube film of John Hawke bringing some B-25 Mitchells over from the USA to the UK to film Hanover Street in 1970, including the Atlantic crossing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoYi8da6yD0
...although I recall them taking a more southern transit route, I think.

aeropilot

39,791 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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yellowjack said:
An hour-long youtube film of John Hawke bringing some B-25 Mitchells over from the USA to the UK to film Hanover Street in 1970, including the Atlantic crossing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoYi8da6yD0
...although I recall them taking a more southern transit route, I think.
It was 1978/9 not 1970, and I well remember the B-25's parked up and unloved at Blackbushe after filming had finished in 1979.

Yes, they took the southern route via the Azores IIRC.