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I currently run a 1996 BMW M3 EVO Coupe, which I love. That said, having been for a few passenger drives in a friends 993 C2 (vario) I think I have caught the bug.
A few things concern me though, namely the turn of speed, the 993 seemed quicker, probably because of the extra noise and low slung sitting position, what would your take be on the performance between the two? i'd Loathe to spend the extra chas for a slower machine ( I am a bit of a Mr Toad)
Insurance is not an issue, so long as I Garage it, it's the same price as the M3!
Having sat in and manovered a RHD 993, I think a LHD car is the better option,, the RHD pedal offset is a bit exreme for me. Would I be able to get a late ish, LHD for £20k? Or do I need to head higher?
A few things concern me though, namely the turn of speed, the 993 seemed quicker, probably because of the extra noise and low slung sitting position, what would your take be on the performance between the two? i'd Loathe to spend the extra chas for a slower machine ( I am a bit of a Mr Toad)
Insurance is not an issue, so long as I Garage it, it's the same price as the M3!
Having sat in and manovered a RHD 993, I think a LHD car is the better option,, the RHD pedal offset is a bit exreme for me. Would I be able to get a late ish, LHD for £20k? Or do I need to head higher?
mansfa said:
Having sat in and manovered a RHD 993, I think a LHD car is the better option,, the RHD pedal offset is a bit exreme for me. Would I be able to get a late ish, LHD for £20k? Or do I need to head higher?
Having spent quite some time looking at exactly this, imo, the answer is no. You will however, get an early-ish (ie pre-varioram) LHD for about 20K.
There was in fact one on PH classifieds a few days ago, black on black, for around 19K.
Totally agree with you on, LHD v RHD.
Dan
I get a dead leg in my RHD 964 if I drive for more than 2 hours (which you're not supposed to do anyway) but other than that, it didn't take long to get used to the offset and never get problems even with my long legs and size 13s. No problems heel and toeing or the like.
However, if you like driving on fast B roads then you will find your view for overtaking compromised by LHD (well I did anyway) this is what made me decide to go for RHD.
LHD is of course fine for track days, Europe, driving around town and motorways (except car parks and drive thru's).
However, if you like driving on fast B roads then you will find your view for overtaking compromised by LHD (well I did anyway) this is what made me decide to go for RHD.
LHD is of course fine for track days, Europe, driving around town and motorways (except car parks and drive thru's).
I had an M3 Evo (conv) and now have a 993 (Is is just me or do loads of 911 owners on this forum seem to have come by this route?) Anyway though the M3 may technically be as quick as the 911 I wouldn't change back. The 911 is a proper sports car, and it looks the part. The whole experience is different to just going fast.
I have a RHD and the pedals are not a problem and certainly nothing compared to toll booths, parking barriers and of course overtaking if you opt for LHD.
Ian
I have a RHD and the pedals are not a problem and certainly nothing compared to toll booths, parking barriers and of course overtaking if you opt for LHD.
Ian
This subject would usually have my name ALL OVER IT but many esteemed PH'ers have said most of what i would have said.
I just sold my LHD 993 C2 coupe in very fine condition for £20k, an October '93 car with heated seats but no varioram of course.
Point to note, the non-vario cars "feel" quicker because of the hit at 4k rpm, even though they're not actually quicker.
And 911 vs M3? They'll cover the same ground at the same speed, but the 911 will cost less to run and lose less money over the next few years, and the 911 driver will have a MUCH BIGGER GRIN
Good luck, and welcome to the PH 993 Fan Club!
VS
I just sold my LHD 993 C2 coupe in very fine condition for £20k, an October '93 car with heated seats but no varioram of course.
Point to note, the non-vario cars "feel" quicker because of the hit at 4k rpm, even though they're not actually quicker.
And 911 vs M3? They'll cover the same ground at the same speed, but the 911 will cost less to run and lose less money over the next few years, and the 911 driver will have a MUCH BIGGER GRIN
Good luck, and welcome to the PH 993 Fan Club!
VS
It's not just the paper performance figures that matter really, once you get used to driving a 911, you'll cover ground very quickly such that BHP doesn't matter too much. (It takes a while to get used to driving one for the first time, at least a thousand miles or so before you become "fluent and fluid".)
Also, you may find variable handling. All can be set up in almost infinite ways so also be careful of journalist talk about any specific model. Most will have had replacement shocks (and possibly springs) by now.
You can lower, raise ride height, front and rear, increase or decrease understeer with different thickness and adjustable anti-roll bars (sway bars for the US); you can set wheel tracking to be suitable for say 90% road and 10% track (as I have done mine) and so on and on.
Also, you may find variable handling. All can be set up in almost infinite ways so also be careful of journalist talk about any specific model. Most will have had replacement shocks (and possibly springs) by now.
You can lower, raise ride height, front and rear, increase or decrease understeer with different thickness and adjustable anti-roll bars (sway bars for the US); you can set wheel tracking to be suitable for say 90% road and 10% track (as I have done mine) and so on and on.
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