Had a go on an MT10.
Discussion
WarnieV6GT said:
I'd have one if it wasn't for the fuel consumption. My brother in law was getting low to mid 30's just taking it easy out of his.
How many miles have you got to be doing on a bike to give 2 s
ts about fuel consumption? 32mpg on the back wheel in 4th = awful financial decision, 38mpg = marvellous idea, I’ll put it to the wife for sign off.
moto_traxport said:
WarnieV6GT said:
I'd have one if it wasn't for the fuel consumption. My brother in law was getting low to mid 30's just taking it easy out of his.
How many miles have you got to be doing on a bike to give 2 sts about fuel consumption? 32mpg on the back wheel in 4th = awful financial decision, 38mpg = marvellous idea, I’ll put it to the wife for sign off.
I wouldn’t buy the mt because of the fuel consumption either.
Rawwr said:
It's a good thing it's fun to ride 'coz there's no way in heaven or hell anyone blessed with the gift of eyesight would buy that on its looks. I owned bikes that have possessed more style after I've crashed them.As for the low 30's mpg? I can get that out of my M5 on a steady run.
WarnieV6GT said:
I'd have one if it wasn't for the fuel consumption. My brother in law was getting low to mid 30's just taking it easy out of his.
How new is it? I've a 2017 R1 (same engine I think) and it started off really pants on fuel, and it's got better and better on fuel so I'm averaging 42mpg now.I love my MT10. I'm up to 1300 miles on mine bought new earlier this year. Its looks - in the right colours - have grown on me, but the details still grate.
Luckily the riding experience is absolutely fantastic. They are a bit flawed as standard but you can feel the potential. If you do the standard things that everyone recommends on them (de-cat, re-flash with woolich software, brake pads, raise pre-load on rear shock a lot, comfort seat), you unleash the bike Yamaha should have produced - it's quite a stark change from standard vs doing similar mods on other bikes.
You really do have to be happy with wheelies though as a combination of 600cc sports bike gearing, R1 big bang motor with more power/torque than the R1 below 10k rpm and the riding position pushing weight back a bit, it means it floats them everywhere. To give an idea, I rode a VTR SP2 recently that wheelied off the power less in 1st gear than the MT10 does in 4th gear. After re-flashing the ECU, it's a lot easier to ride, but the 7% extra torque and peak power everywhere exacerbates its 'hot rod' nature.
On a long run, using cruise control, I've seen 49mpg, but overall I get about 34, with just sub 30 being possible if being a dick everywhere. I pitch it that in most conditions it does around 8 to 10mpg less than the equivalent riding would use on my Fireblade, but only about 4mpg less than my 2013 Speed Triple and 1098S.
Is the mpg a little annoying? Yes - mainly as it's such a good tourer with screen, top box and comfort seat and it limits range a bit (generally fill up at 100 miles). It has 10 to 20 more miles range typically than my 1098S, yet as you are all day comfortable on the MT10, the range is annoying as you feel you could just carry on riding. On the Ducati its shorter range is not annoying as you are happy to have a fill up to stretch and look at the bike some more
Other niggles? It's a bit slappy - steering damper feels useless and the throttle return spring is way too light. Mode 1 is still too aggressive and mode 2 a little too soft. Mode 1.5 would be ideal if existed.
My top tip aside from the normal mods - a Givi low screen makes it almost sports bike practical on wind protection, up to 130-ish.
The way it wheelies though, especially if you have a post 17 model with quickshifter, is like cheating. Pop it up in 3rd, quick shift fairly quickly to 4th and 5th and just ride the wheelie as long as you dare 6th gear power wheelies of crests are possible too which is just craziness.
Did I mention the wheelies? Oooo - and the sound. The sound and the wheelies.
Luckily the riding experience is absolutely fantastic. They are a bit flawed as standard but you can feel the potential. If you do the standard things that everyone recommends on them (de-cat, re-flash with woolich software, brake pads, raise pre-load on rear shock a lot, comfort seat), you unleash the bike Yamaha should have produced - it's quite a stark change from standard vs doing similar mods on other bikes.
You really do have to be happy with wheelies though as a combination of 600cc sports bike gearing, R1 big bang motor with more power/torque than the R1 below 10k rpm and the riding position pushing weight back a bit, it means it floats them everywhere. To give an idea, I rode a VTR SP2 recently that wheelied off the power less in 1st gear than the MT10 does in 4th gear. After re-flashing the ECU, it's a lot easier to ride, but the 7% extra torque and peak power everywhere exacerbates its 'hot rod' nature.
On a long run, using cruise control, I've seen 49mpg, but overall I get about 34, with just sub 30 being possible if being a dick everywhere. I pitch it that in most conditions it does around 8 to 10mpg less than the equivalent riding would use on my Fireblade, but only about 4mpg less than my 2013 Speed Triple and 1098S.
Is the mpg a little annoying? Yes - mainly as it's such a good tourer with screen, top box and comfort seat and it limits range a bit (generally fill up at 100 miles). It has 10 to 20 more miles range typically than my 1098S, yet as you are all day comfortable on the MT10, the range is annoying as you feel you could just carry on riding. On the Ducati its shorter range is not annoying as you are happy to have a fill up to stretch and look at the bike some more
Other niggles? It's a bit slappy - steering damper feels useless and the throttle return spring is way too light. Mode 1 is still too aggressive and mode 2 a little too soft. Mode 1.5 would be ideal if existed.
My top tip aside from the normal mods - a Givi low screen makes it almost sports bike practical on wind protection, up to 130-ish.
The way it wheelies though, especially if you have a post 17 model with quickshifter, is like cheating. Pop it up in 3rd, quick shift fairly quickly to 4th and 5th and just ride the wheelie as long as you dare
6th gear power wheelies of crests are possible too which is just craziness.Did I mention the wheelies? Oooo - and the sound. The sound and the wheelies.
Dog Star said:
How new is it? I've a 2017 R1 (same engine I think) and it started off really pants on fuel, and it's got better and better on fuel so I'm averaging 42mpg now.
It had less than 1k on it. He took it up to around 4k.At the time I had my 750 v-twin and we'd got out all day riding and it was a piss take every top up with him putting in on average an extra £4-5. Same sort of speeds, in fact he rides slower which he'll happily admit.
I loved the bike and it fit me perfectly but if you ride a lot it soon adds up.
moto_traxport said:
How many miles have you got to be doing on a bike to give 2 sts about fuel consumption?
32mpg on the back wheel in 4th = awful financial decision, 38mpg = marvellous idea, I’ll put it to the wife for sign off.
The wife ? Funny. She thinks I put a fiver in and it lasts all day...ts about fuel consumption? 32mpg on the back wheel in 4th = awful financial decision, 38mpg = marvellous idea, I’ll put it to the wife for sign off.
Cant be telling her to stop buying more f
king handbags if she knows I'm buring £20-30 quid on a ride out in fuel. Just remembered mine has a comfort seat and a Yamaha touring screen.
I have a tail tidy and hand guards but I'm a bone idle fker who can't be arsed to fit them.
I just like riding mine. I'll never go back to a sports bike on the road. Luckily we are all spoilt now with all manufacturers offering a mad naked bike.
I have a tail tidy and hand guards but I'm a bone idle f
ker who can't be arsed to fit them.I just like riding mine. I'll never go back to a sports bike on the road. Luckily we are all spoilt now with all manufacturers offering a mad naked bike.
Biker's Nemesis said:
Just remembered mine has a comfort seat and a Yamaha touring screen.
I have a tail tidy and hand guards but I'm a bone idle fker who can't be arsed to fit them.
I just like riding mine. I'll never go back to a sports bike on the road. Luckily we are all spoilt now with all manufacturers offering a mad naked bike.
Still enjoy sports bikes on the road, but the super nakeds make loads more sense.I have a tail tidy and hand guards but I'm a bone idle f
ker who can't be arsed to fit them.I just like riding mine. I'll never go back to a sports bike on the road. Luckily we are all spoilt now with all manufacturers offering a mad naked bike.
The tail tidy is not too bad to fit, but if EvoTech, makes the stupid key position to release the seat even harder to get at.
Mods on mine: 9.5kg off stuff taken off, 1.5kg added back on smile
Leo Vince Decat.
Woolich reflash, including:
Delete O2 sensors and loom
Delete exhaust valve and servo motor
Remove top speed limiter
Open loop mapping
Quick action Mode 1 throttle
Disable fuel cut off on over-run
Reduce fan on/off temps
Evo tech Tail tidy
SBS HH front pads
Givi low sports screen
Comfort seat (with dremel mod to stop it wearing though)
Renntec sports rack
Givi plate and 47ltr top box
Bags connections tank ring
Quick lock phone mount
SBS HH front pads
anonymous said:
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Yes - the Leo Vince de-cat is a de-cat, but has a small mid section silencer. This just knocks off some of the high frequency sound and aesthetically fills the hole where the cat was a bit better. These are LOUD bikes when de-catted so I didn't want it too obnoxious. Definitely quieter than with a normal straight pipe de-cat. The OEM pipe is straight through as silencing was in the cat, so eventually will source a longer after market exhaust. The SC Project one I had bought was friction fit with mid section and unfortunately did not work with the Leo Vince decat as needs to be clamped.Definite contender post Africa twin for me.
Trouble is I need to consider family as they love coming on the back.
I assume the MT10 is a bit lively with a pillion on board. 3DP is see you have a grab rail so pillions are possible with the added support with the top box so they don’t fall off the back.
Other option would be a street or speed, CB1000r, KTM 1290
Trouble is I need to consider family as they love coming on the back.
I assume the MT10 is a bit lively with a pillion on board. 3DP is see you have a grab rail so pillions are possible with the added support with the top box so they don’t fall off the back.
Other option would be a street or speed, CB1000r, KTM 1290
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