Alfa Romeo GTV v6 Values
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Anyone know what sort of price a 1999 3.0 should command?
I am going to look at one, advertised at 5k. Pricing seems to be all over the place from 2.5k to 10k. This one seems a very good example:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
5k seem a decent price?
I am going to look at one, advertised at 5k. Pricing seems to be all over the place from 2.5k to 10k. This one seems a very good example:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
5k seem a decent price?
For £10k it would have to be pristine you can now get a Maserati for that money and it has drive to the correct wheels You need to get these up on a ramp and check the sill seams and floor sections as well as the rear frame for corrosion. Check aircon, powersteering and oil pipes too. Look carefully at the rear arches for rust especially at the sill joint.
From the photo and description it looks good but don't forget its a 20 year old car.
From the photo and description it looks good but don't forget its a 20 year old car.
I’ve not long bought one.
Similarly to you I noted prices are all over the shop, with mileage and series being a lesser concern than overall condition.
Cars I saw tended to fall into two camps, 3-5k and potentially needed a small fortune spending on them (just like the bill on the one you’ve highlighted) or those in the 6-9k bracket that had wads and wads of bills.
These bills can be pretty hefty for engine, bodywork and suspension independently so if I was paying over 5k I’d want to see all of those areas addressed.
I’d also say the q2 or equivalent is an essential so budget for one if it hasn’t. I have it (along with fully rebuilt suspension) and it’s still very nose heavy and understeer prone; The difference with one without was much worse.
Similarly to you I noted prices are all over the shop, with mileage and series being a lesser concern than overall condition.
Cars I saw tended to fall into two camps, 3-5k and potentially needed a small fortune spending on them (just like the bill on the one you’ve highlighted) or those in the 6-9k bracket that had wads and wads of bills.
These bills can be pretty hefty for engine, bodywork and suspension independently so if I was paying over 5k I’d want to see all of those areas addressed.
I’d also say the q2 or equivalent is an essential so budget for one if it hasn’t. I have it (along with fully rebuilt suspension) and it’s still very nose heavy and understeer prone; The difference with one without was much worse.
Thanks. This one seems to have a lot of paperwork, including a recent-ish major service (well, November 2017, which I suppose isn't that recent) and no rust (lots of pictures of the undercarriage from the end of 2017 don't show any at least). It does seem the owner chucked money at it whenever anything went wrong.
It doesn't have a Q2 diff.
It's either this or I buy a 2005 MB CLK500!
It doesn't have a Q2 diff.
It's either this or I buy a 2005 MB CLK500!
Prices really are all over the place with these 916s.
I bought mine in February - it's the second I've had. It's a 1999 3.0 in Vela blue with the blue-style interior (sounds a bit 'hmmmm' but it's nice once you see it 'in the metal'). Just a shade under 158k miles on the clock, which is more than most, but I'd rather buy on condition than mileage tbh. Cosmetically it's very nice, save for a patch on the nearside rear where it's obviously had a bit of a poor repair. Hardly the end of the world though. The interior is also in great condition for the mileage, and everything works. The car came with a handy bunch of brand new spares too, the original radio, and the factory tyre inflation kit. It was listed for £2,450, and I intended to offer £2k as it had been for sale for a month or two.
When I went to view I was pleasantly surprised. I expected a car that drove OK but probably needed a few bits. It actually drove really nicely - it's safe to say I was impressed. A bonus was that the major service (ie cambelt) isn't due for a while, not that it's too much of a headache as I maintain my cars myself. The bonnet had recently been resprayed, the wheels had been refurbished, tyres have plenty of life left, and it had been lowered (which I guess could be a positive or a negative depending on your viewpoint). The history file wasn't bursting at the seams, but seemed to indicate it had been looked after relatively well. I offered £2,200 which the seller accepted.
It passed it's MOT earlier this week with two advisories - both for the front ARB links, which I knew needed replacing and already have the parts for (I just haven't got round to fitting them). Nothing else at fault.The tester even commented positively about the condition it's in; it's rare for him to tell me that, as I tend to buy Italian cars at the cheaper end of the spectrum, that need lots of work...
I suppose this post doesn't really help you much, now I think about it! I'm not an expert on 916s by any means, but I'd estimate the following:
Under £2k: Most likely due a major service, probably several present mechanical issues to resolve. Probably has some paintwork defects. Strong likelihood of higher mileages/older examples/fewer careful owners, thus corrosion and improper maintenance may be more of a concern. May not have very good history. Expect stuff like worn suspension, airbag lights, etc (the usual GTV/Spider stuff).
£2k - 3k: likely to be OK runners, perhaps some paint defects. Probably due a major service but not definitely. Should have OK history, perhaps a bit patchy. Likely has a few advisories on the MOT to sort. Probably some interior wear such as on the seat bolsters but nothing too bad.
£3k to £5k: A slightly wider bracket, lots of very similar cars seem to sell around these prices so it's tricky to nail it down really. Probably have good history, mileage up to around 90/100k. Paintwork and interiors in good condition. I think this sort of price bracket is where the cars with the known/recommended modifications begin to come into play - such as the Q2 diff, equal length downpipes, brake and suspension upgrades, etc etc.
£5k - £8k(ish): This is where the better cars will be. Lower mileages, very good history, excelent cosmetic condition inside and out, have had major work done and will likely be sold with no mechanical issues. I'd expect many to have the popular upgrades installed.
£8k+: The best cars available. I'd only really expect to see Cups for sale in this price range, or perhaps good examples of the V6 Spiders and the very best V6 GTVs. Either way, they'll most likely be in very good order mechanically and cosmetically, and probably have low mileage too. Exceptional history is a given. I think the best Cups are around £12k - £15k (again, difficult to pin it down) and those cars will tend to be pristine with less than 60k miles.
That's just my thoughts anyway, doubtless some people will think differently which is fine. I just threw this together while having a mid-afternoon cuppa, so don't take it too literally!!
I also focused on the V6 cars when writing the above - the TS cars aren't quite worth as much but the same principles apply I would say.
I bought mine in February - it's the second I've had. It's a 1999 3.0 in Vela blue with the blue-style interior (sounds a bit 'hmmmm' but it's nice once you see it 'in the metal'). Just a shade under 158k miles on the clock, which is more than most, but I'd rather buy on condition than mileage tbh. Cosmetically it's very nice, save for a patch on the nearside rear where it's obviously had a bit of a poor repair. Hardly the end of the world though. The interior is also in great condition for the mileage, and everything works. The car came with a handy bunch of brand new spares too, the original radio, and the factory tyre inflation kit. It was listed for £2,450, and I intended to offer £2k as it had been for sale for a month or two.
When I went to view I was pleasantly surprised. I expected a car that drove OK but probably needed a few bits. It actually drove really nicely - it's safe to say I was impressed. A bonus was that the major service (ie cambelt) isn't due for a while, not that it's too much of a headache as I maintain my cars myself. The bonnet had recently been resprayed, the wheels had been refurbished, tyres have plenty of life left, and it had been lowered (which I guess could be a positive or a negative depending on your viewpoint). The history file wasn't bursting at the seams, but seemed to indicate it had been looked after relatively well. I offered £2,200 which the seller accepted.
It passed it's MOT earlier this week with two advisories - both for the front ARB links, which I knew needed replacing and already have the parts for (I just haven't got round to fitting them). Nothing else at fault.The tester even commented positively about the condition it's in; it's rare for him to tell me that, as I tend to buy Italian cars at the cheaper end of the spectrum, that need lots of work...
I suppose this post doesn't really help you much, now I think about it! I'm not an expert on 916s by any means, but I'd estimate the following:
Under £2k: Most likely due a major service, probably several present mechanical issues to resolve. Probably has some paintwork defects. Strong likelihood of higher mileages/older examples/fewer careful owners, thus corrosion and improper maintenance may be more of a concern. May not have very good history. Expect stuff like worn suspension, airbag lights, etc (the usual GTV/Spider stuff).
£2k - 3k: likely to be OK runners, perhaps some paint defects. Probably due a major service but not definitely. Should have OK history, perhaps a bit patchy. Likely has a few advisories on the MOT to sort. Probably some interior wear such as on the seat bolsters but nothing too bad.
£3k to £5k: A slightly wider bracket, lots of very similar cars seem to sell around these prices so it's tricky to nail it down really. Probably have good history, mileage up to around 90/100k. Paintwork and interiors in good condition. I think this sort of price bracket is where the cars with the known/recommended modifications begin to come into play - such as the Q2 diff, equal length downpipes, brake and suspension upgrades, etc etc.
£5k - £8k(ish): This is where the better cars will be. Lower mileages, very good history, excelent cosmetic condition inside and out, have had major work done and will likely be sold with no mechanical issues. I'd expect many to have the popular upgrades installed.
£8k+: The best cars available. I'd only really expect to see Cups for sale in this price range, or perhaps good examples of the V6 Spiders and the very best V6 GTVs. Either way, they'll most likely be in very good order mechanically and cosmetically, and probably have low mileage too. Exceptional history is a given. I think the best Cups are around £12k - £15k (again, difficult to pin it down) and those cars will tend to be pristine with less than 60k miles.
That's just my thoughts anyway, doubtless some people will think differently which is fine. I just threw this together while having a mid-afternoon cuppa, so don't take it too literally!!
I also focused on the V6 cars when writing the above - the TS cars aren't quite worth as much but the same principles apply I would say.
As for the specific car you asked about, I'd say that seems a very good price to me. The only downside is the colour, which is of course a matter of personal preference. My previous GTV V6 was silver and although it's nice, it looks a little bit less 'enticing' than the other colours available. Just my opinion of course.
HaydnW said:
As for the specific car you asked about, I'd say that seems a very good price to me. The only downside is the colour, which is of course a matter of personal preference. My previous GTV V6 was silver and although it's nice, it looks a little bit less 'enticing' than the other colours available. Just my opinion of course.
Thanks. I know the guy had it up at 7k initially and has slowly shifted it downwards. He said the bodywork is good but not perfect and I know the wheels need refurbed, but given the amount of work done over the last 12 to 18 months on the mechanicals and rust it seems a good price. I quite like silver, though my favourite is green, and really wish it had the tan interior!
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Just bought mine for a grand. 101K miles perfect interior, straight body, almost new set of PS3s, fancy stainless exhaust that looks and sounds good,
paint commensurate with age. The down sides?
- Cambelt literally on its last legs, was split 30% of the way through. Done.
- Holes in the floor, will need material attention from the MIG. The sills on these things are massive - all of the stuff you can see is cosmetic tinplate.
- Brake failure (doesn't matter, see upgrades....)
The upgrade list?
330mm brakes
LSD
Alfaholics handling kit
Slight problem is that I don''t really fit in it - 6'3" and my eyes are level with the top of the screen. I'll need to work on lowering the seats.
paint commensurate with age. The down sides?
- Cambelt literally on its last legs, was split 30% of the way through. Done.
- Holes in the floor, will need material attention from the MIG. The sills on these things are massive - all of the stuff you can see is cosmetic tinplate.
- Brake failure (doesn't matter, see upgrades....)
The upgrade list?
330mm brakes
LSD
Alfaholics handling kit
Slight problem is that I don''t really fit in it - 6'3" and my eyes are level with the top of the screen. I'll need to work on lowering the seats.
Some [taller] people have had luck removing the spacers from the seat bases to get them to sit lower to the floor, (around 10mm)
Removing the seat base cushion and cutting away some of the foam on the rear will also help you to sit lower in the seat. (another 10mm)
Some also remove the fold down sunvisors (they are like didy boomarangs anyway)
hopefully some of that will help you to sit in the car further rather than on top of it.
Removing the seat base cushion and cutting away some of the foam on the rear will also help you to sit lower in the seat. (another 10mm)
Some also remove the fold down sunvisors (they are like didy boomarangs anyway)
hopefully some of that will help you to sit in the car further rather than on top of it.
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