Insurance - Sold Car
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Monsterlime

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1,529 posts

195 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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I have just, around 20 minutes ago, sold my car. I just tried to call my insurance company to cancel the insurance (already done the Gov change of keeper bit) and they are closed. Only open until 13:00 on a Saturday and closed on Sunday.

This is a classic insurer, so I am not hugely surprised. I did leave a voicemail stating my policy, the car reg and the fact it has been sold and insurance should be cancelled.

However, where does this leave me? The chap who bought it claims he took insurance out before driving off, but I cannot confirm that (and he is an adult etc). If he has an accident tomorrow, since I can't cancel my insurance until Monday, will I/my insurance end up being liable?

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Monsterlime said:
If he has an accident tomorrow, since I can't cancel my insurance until Monday, will I/my insurance end up being liable?
yes if no other insurance on it.

Monsterlime

Original Poster:

1,529 posts

195 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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I suspected so, annoying. Thanks!

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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have they not a an accident helpline?

InitialDave

15,109 posts

148 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Well, you have notified them, even if they're unable to act on that information.

I assume it could be an interesting one if the proposed scenario came about.

Red Devil

13,516 posts

237 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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InitialDave said:
Well, you have notified them, even if they're unable to act on that information.

I assume it could be an interesting one if the proposed scenario came about.
Notification is not acceptable to terminate a contact it has to be confirmed or accepted.

Dog Star

17,597 posts

197 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Why on earth would your insurance be liable? You are no longer the owner of the vehicle. The new owner is not on the insurance as a named driver.

If the police stopped him while driving it home and he had no insurance they’d impound it. They’re not going to let him on his way because you had insurance on it.

NGee

2,952 posts

193 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Dog Star said:
If the police stopped him while driving it home and he had no insurance they’d impound it. They’re not going to let him on his way because you had insurance on it.
Probably very true, but that's not what the OP asked!

Dog Star

17,597 posts

197 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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NGee said:
Dog Star said:
If the police stopped him while driving it home and he had no insurance they’d impound it. They’re not going to let him on his way because you had insurance on it.
Probably very true, but that's not what the OP asked!
Sorry - that was in response to the spruce goose; forgot to quote.

PorkInsider

6,589 posts

170 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Dog Star said:
Why on earth would your insurance be liable? You are no longer the owner of the vehicle. The new owner is not on the insurance as a named driver.
It doesn't matter who the owner is.

If the only insurance policy on the car is the OP's it's that policy which will be claimed against if the new owner has a 3rd party clam.

OP's insurer might pursue him to recoup their loss but that's a separate issue.

Mr Ted

251 posts

136 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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disclaimer: I am not an insurance agent but my understanding is this:-

If you sell a vehicle and the new owner insures it but your insurance is still running then, in the event of an accident, the fact that your cover is still in place means the new owners insurance is invalid as you can't have 2 policies covering the same vehicle so your insurer has to pay a third party claim BUT they can recover the cost from you as you have allowed an offence to be committed.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Dog Star said:
Sorry - that was in response to the spruce goose; forgot to quote.
Very wrong maybe better read recent threads that highlight the potential issue the op has.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

147 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Mr Ted said:
disclaimer: I am not an insurance agent but my understanding is this:-

If you sell a vehicle and the new owner insures it but your insurance is still running then, in the event of an accident, the fact that your cover is still in place means the new owners insurance is invalid as you can't have 2 policies covering the same vehicle so your insurer has to pay a third party claim BUT they can recover the cost from you as you have allowed an offence to be committed.
While technically it is illegal it is very common and perfectly normal for a couple of days during sale etc.

It's to avoid people car sharing by insuring the same car multiple times for whatever reason.

You have called to inform that's your duty done.
Wouldn't worry move on.

Chiswickboy

549 posts

217 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Mr Ted said:
disclaimer: I am not an insurance agent but my understanding is this:-

If you sell a vehicle and the new owner insures it but your insurance is still running then, in the event of an accident, the fact that your cover is still in place means the new owners insurance is invalid as you can't have 2 policies covering the same vehicle so your insurer has to pay a third party claim BUT they can recover the cost from you as you have allowed an offence to be committed.
You can have as many insurance policies as you can afford to pay, but:

1. You must have a financial interest in the item being insured.

2. A claim can only be made against one policy.




anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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xjay1337 said:


You have called to inform that's your duty done.
Wouldn't worry move on.
You cant say that without the cancellation procedure, just leaving a vm will not be sufficient unless specified.

KungFuPanda

4,640 posts

199 months

Sunday 14th July 2019
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Mr Ted said:
disclaimer: I am not an insurance agent but my understanding is this:-

If you sell a vehicle and the new owner insures it but your insurance is still running then, in the event of an accident, the fact that your cover is still in place means the new owners insurance is invalid as you can't have 2 policies covering the same vehicle so your insurer has to pay a third party claim BUT they can recover the cost from you as you have allowed an offence to be committed.
It'a a good job you're not in insurance because you're wrong.

KungFuPanda

4,640 posts

199 months

Sunday 14th July 2019
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xjay1337 said:
Mr Ted said:
disclaimer: I am not an insurance agent but my understanding is this:-

If you sell a vehicle and the new owner insures it but your insurance is still running then, in the event of an accident, the fact that your cover is still in place means the new owners insurance is invalid as you can't have 2 policies covering the same vehicle so your insurer has to pay a third party claim BUT they can recover the cost from you as you have allowed an offence to be committed.
While technically it is illegal it is very common and perfectly normal for a couple of days during sale etc.

It's to avoid people car sharing by insuring the same car multiple times for whatever reason.

You have called to inform that's your duty done.
Wouldn't worry move on.
It's not illegal.

leyorkie

1,815 posts

205 months

Sunday 14th July 2019
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I thought that one of the principals of insurance is that you can’t cover anything that you do not have an interest in.
Car is sold you have no interest.

So car gets stolen you expect to get a pay out for it even though you have no interest in it as you sold it yesterday, I’m assuming you got paid for it

So your pride and joy gets stolen and is in volved in accident with thief at the wheel is your claim for the theft and the accident. I don’t think so it’s that what the industry fund is for?

sospan

2,755 posts

251 months

Sunday 14th July 2019
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What does your policy say about it?
Have you checked the cancellation details for the procedure to adopt?
The suggestion to check for a 24/7 tel number is also a good one.