UK to southern spain mile muncher
UK to southern spain mile muncher
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NickColl89

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271 posts

137 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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I will be doing this trip maybe 2 or 3 times a year from next year onwards, I will be looking to get the most miles from a tank as possible with obviously the highest MPG that can be had.

My only requirements are that it is long enough to sleep in and that is costs <£3.5k.

I have picked out the obvious Passat bluemotion estate and also the peugot 508 sw (although these have a weird FAP system, ohh err missus) Both of these cars should be capable of 900 miles to a tank at sensible speeds I feel.

Does anyone have suggestions or do something similiar, let me know what car you have.

RSTurboPaul

13,065 posts

287 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Don't the new Honda Civic diesels do amazing MPG?

Not sure if you could sleep in one, though.

NickColl89

Original Poster:

271 posts

137 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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RSTurboPaul said:
Don't the new Honda Civic diesels do amazing MPG?

Not sure if you could sleep in one, though.
Do you mean new as in 2019 new? Not sure that would fit mu budget of 3.5k or less.

RedWhiteMonkey

9,065 posts

211 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Aren't E Class estate about as big as it gets? You should easily be able to sleep in one of those.

Quick look and 3,5K gets you something like this:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

NickColl89

Original Poster:

271 posts

137 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
Aren't E Class estate about as big as it gets? You should easily be able to sleep in one of those.

Quick look and 3,5K gets you something like this:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
They do look long enough to sleep in, not sure the MPG figures would be anwere near the passat though or the 508. Using the "extra urban" figure i work the passat out at being able to do 1114 miles to a tank.

By contrast using the same "extra urban" figures the E280 would get 750 miles, a big difference when driving considering a car for multiple journeys

RedWhiteMonkey

9,065 posts

211 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Ok, how long does it have to be for you to able to sleep in it? How tall are you?

NickColl89

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271 posts

137 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
Ok, how long does it have to be for you to able to sleep in it? How tall are you?
5ft 10ish, I think most estates would accomodate me height wise, another thing to consider is do all the rear seats fold completely flat. This info is a lot harder to find. Other than going to see a car and trying it.

nobrakes

3,782 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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I think you’re right on the money with the bluemotion.

NickColl89

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271 posts

137 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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nobrakes said:
I think you’re right on the money with the bluemotion.
I think it might be the one to go for, I kinda decieded on it but found this corner of the forum and wanted to see what others thought.

Might have been something I had completely overlooked.

I had considered volvos too, although I'm not as clued on on which diesel engines are the best.

John Laverick

2,002 posts

243 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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If you're doing long stints at the wheel on motorways you'll want a rest and leg stretch every 2/3 hours anyway so is the massive range really that necessary?

AlexH22

82 posts

205 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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I have a Skoda Octavia 1.6 green line which was intentionally purchased for multiple trips to and from Cornwall. It's been pretty good on fuel, given I don't travel slow. Not sure the seats fold perfectly flat though to get a good sleep in it.

I'd beware anything that's had the emissions update from VW as it's bound to be problematic in your price range.

Slushbox

1,484 posts

134 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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My Jetta 2.0 TDi BlueMotion Tech DSG gets about 60 mpg at 70 mph , 70+ mpg at sixty. (No, you can't sleep in it.) Jetta/Passat diesels are good motorway cruisers. Tank range is about 650-700 miles. Passat is heavier. Cruise control/auto helpful, as are auto-wipers.

I've done the Atlantic ports down to Alicante and Gib. half a dozen times. Everything starts going numb after three hours, so tend to stop for breaks. Gib to Bilbao is about ten hours plus breaks.

Santander to Alicante, seven and half hours plus breaks. I have done it in seven hours in a RAV4 diesel, at silly speeds. Boredom sets in, so there's a tendency to press on. :-)

Used to be that a lot of filling stations were closed for siesta/Sunday/ throwing goats off a church steeple festivals, so always took a couple of fuel cans and a funnel in the boot.

There was/is also a lot of distraction crime in autovia parking areas: 'helpful' eastern European people pointing out your newly deflated tyre then raiding the boot while you change it. Chum had his cameras and suitcase nicked when 'helpful' persons interrupted his nap on the autovia by knocking on the window.

Second trip, midnight somewhere at an autovia filling station, was approached by a tearful woman pleading for something - checked behind me and there were two guys emerging from the bushes. Drove off, pronto.

Also had a gun pointed at me in Alicante, (daytime, around 12:00) perp was being trailed by police, who jumped on him while I stood around, shaking. Wouldn't want to sleep in the car.

Thrilling times. :-)

Volvo 'D3' covers a range of 150 HP or so diesel engines with the same designation. The five-cylinder ones were pretty nice. An auto Volvo estate is worth looking at - they tend to be loaded with extras and have conservative owners.

Had a Merc E class estate: solid, but a bit of a barge. As with the Volvo, main dealer servcing prices were eye-watering.



Edited by Slushbox on Wednesday 17th July 19:03

NickColl89

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271 posts

137 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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I can quite comfortably do 5-6 hour stints in the UK before I need the toilet. Not sure where people get 2-3 hours from but I guess everyone's different.

The miles on a tank thing is more a convenience thing, also seeing which cars have the largest fuel tanks with the highest mpg has become an obsession &#128514;. I just like the idea of being able to plough on regardless if I need to.

SpanishTony

440 posts

154 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Slushbox said:
Used to be that a lot of filling stations were closed for lunch/Sunday/ throwing goats off church steeples festivals,
Isn't that in Galicia? must have been going the long way down.

Slushbox

1,484 posts

134 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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SpanishTony said:
Isn't that in Galicia? must have been going the long way down.
Zamora. Lunch stop route to Salamanca/Gib.

Seems there's always a festival somewhere in Spain. :-)


Edited by Slushbox on Wednesday 17th July 19:15

Defconluke

320 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Mondeo estates are massive too.
Something like THIS - 6 speed, cruise, A/Cand just over 1100 miles based off official figures.
I believe the 1.6 diesel comes from Peugeot but by this point in the production run should have had all issues sorted out. Also, not sure what the switch in fron of the cup holders in this particular one is for but should be plenty of them around to choose from and some are listed at close to double the mileage (and half the cost) so you pay your money and take your choices.

ZX10R NIN

30,525 posts

154 months

DoubleD

22,154 posts

137 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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ZX10R NIN said:
I think he needs an estate so he can sleep in it.

ShyTallKnight

2,331 posts

242 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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I may well be biased but a Volvo V70 D5 has to be a serious contender for well within budget.

John Laverick

2,002 posts

243 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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NickColl89 said:
I can quite comfortably do 5-6 hour stints in the UK before I need the toilet. Not sure where people get 2-3 hours from but I guess everyone's different.

The miles on a tank thing is more a convenience thing, also seeing which cars have the largest fuel tanks with the highest mpg has become an obsession ??. I just like the idea of being able to plough on regardless if I need to.
It comes from experience ... I have a fair bit. Can I do 5-6 hrs in one go? Yes. Do I want to? No. It's tedious.

I drove to the Algarve last month (mainly due to the Pont Aven being out of action). A 27 hour journey. To do it in 3 stops based on 6 hrs at the wheel each time would be torture.

Even 6 hrs at 85mph is only 510 miles so my point is that the range is largely irrelevant to your scenario. Very useful for a sales rep doing repeated 200 mile days but for a long journey largely irrelevant.

If you want a Large range for the sake of it though thats your prerogative so fair play.