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Can some of you bikers tell me this, whilst I know it is a good idea to have your headlight on during daylight hours, to let some of us dozy motorist know that you are coming up behind us, why oh why do some of you have them on during the day ON FULL BEAM, it really pisses us of.
Dipped is fine, we can see you, but ON FULL BEAM, well words fail me sometimes.
As an ex biker, (my last bike was a BSA 650cc Clubmans Lightning which I sold in 1969 for £120) I do appreciate bikers and the road in general, but FULL BEAM in daylight, tell me, why?
Dipped is fine, we can see you, but ON FULL BEAM, well words fail me sometimes.
As an ex biker, (my last bike was a BSA 650cc Clubmans Lightning which I sold in 1969 for £120) I do appreciate bikers and the road in general, but FULL BEAM in daylight, tell me, why?
Vipers said:
Can some of you bikers tell me this, whilst I know it is a good idea to have your headlight on during daylight hours, to let some of us dozy motorist know that you are coming up behind us, why oh why do some of you have them on during the day ON FULL BEAM, it really pisses us of.
Dipped is fine, we can see you, but ON FULL BEAM, well words fail me sometimes.
As an ex biker, (my last bike was a BSA 650cc Clubmans Lightning which I sold in 1969 for £120) I do appreciate bikers and the road in general, but FULL BEAM in daylight, tell me, why?
A headlight left on full beam is not only anti-social, it's also dangerous, because it makes it very difficult for another driver to judge the speed of the bike.
However, bike lights have become much more effective in the last few years and many dipped beams can now easily be mistaken for full beams. The latest generation of bikes have no headlight on/off switch, the headlights are wired permanently on.
Mon Ami Mate said:
However, bike lights have become much more effective in the last few years and many dipped beams can now easily be mistaken for full beams.
Yeah, especially if you've put in Philips Vision Plus bulbs or the like. (Or upgraded even further to one of those £300 full-monty-HID-Xenon light thingies).
Mon Ami Mate said:
However, bike lights have become much more effective in the last few years and many dipped beams can now easily be mistaken for full beams. The latest generation of bikes have no headlight on/off switch, the headlights are wired permanently on.
Indeed, I hired a ZX6R (so new bike) 3 years ago and on a ride out the bloke I was out with asked if Iwas on full beam - which I wasn't.
I then bought a 92 ZXR400 H2, which had crap lights until I upgraded them.
Now I have a ZXR750 L1 which has very good lights and yes I do occasionally get flashed (not that way), and no I don't ride with full beams on.
Lots of interesting comments, thanks fellas, a little surprised all bikes dont have tell tale indicators for full beam.
I do miss the 650 Lightning though, god I sold it for £120 in 69' when I passed my test in a 3 ton lorry, (which gave me a car license) and brought a Triumph Herald for £250.
Ligntnings, now if you can find them, are about £3500-£4000...... at least I have the memories of having one, stripping it down, painting it up, and cruising.............
Safe driving bikers....... Remember, a lot of car drivers are ex bikers, and will always be polite to you guys out there,
I do miss the 650 Lightning though, god I sold it for £120 in 69' when I passed my test in a 3 ton lorry, (which gave me a car license) and brought a Triumph Herald for £250.
Ligntnings, now if you can find them, are about £3500-£4000...... at least I have the memories of having one, stripping it down, painting it up, and cruising.............
Safe driving bikers....... Remember, a lot of car drivers are ex bikers, and will always be polite to you guys out there,
Always use dipped beam, but sometimes full beam if filtering between lanes on a dual carriageway.
The problem with bikes is that, as you accelerate, the front lifts a bit and often gives the impression that you are flashing at cars in front, or coming towards you, which can also annoy car drivers.
New bikes of course always have dipped headlights on from fire up.
Don't know many riders who use full beam all of the time - is it common?
The problem with bikes is that, as you accelerate, the front lifts a bit and often gives the impression that you are flashing at cars in front, or coming towards you, which can also annoy car drivers.
New bikes of course always have dipped headlights on from fire up.
Don't know many riders who use full beam all of the time - is it common?
Tricky one this.
I would rather been seen with my full beam on and my speed unable to be judged, than not to be seen at all on dipped beam.
It is quite easy to miss a normal dipped beam headlight in your rear view mirror, but the amount of times I have seen something out of the corner only for it to be a biker with full beam on, I could have well missed them if they had dipped on and being a rider I am always driving 'bike safe'... it proves it gives the biker more attention.
The flip side is what has been already said, it does make the bikers speed much harder to judge and dazzles motorists (less so during the day)
Rock and a hard place I guess.
I would rather been seen with my full beam on and my speed unable to be judged, than not to be seen at all on dipped beam.
It is quite easy to miss a normal dipped beam headlight in your rear view mirror, but the amount of times I have seen something out of the corner only for it to be a biker with full beam on, I could have well missed them if they had dipped on and being a rider I am always driving 'bike safe'... it proves it gives the biker more attention.
The flip side is what has been already said, it does make the bikers speed much harder to judge and dazzles motorists (less so during the day)
Rock and a hard place I guess.
Vipers said:
Lots of interesting comments, thanks fellas, a little surprised all bikes dont have tell tale indicators for full beam.
Mine is an old and basic bike. Modern bikes do have tell-tales, though they're not necessarily much use in daylight. (And quite a lot of people like old and/or basic bikes
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