French ticket - Civil or criminal?
French ticket - Civil or criminal?
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Pvapour

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Saturday 20th July 2019
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I know it’s a criminal offence in France to speed..
but if you get a ticket forwarded to you in uk, is it enforceable by the uk courts as a criminal offence? Or is it civil?

Joe5y

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Saturday 20th July 2019
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Well my court date for my 2x tickets have come and gone so I guess next time I am pulled in France I will have some frozen onions rammed in me for a while.

vonhosen

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Saturday 20th July 2019
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Pvapour said:
I know it’s a criminal offence in France to speed..
but if you get a ticket forwarded to you in uk, is it enforceable by the uk courts as a criminal offence? Or is it civil?
Haven't read it all fully (because I'm not particularly concerned about it) but my understanding is that the forwarded ticket is for a hearing/case in France & any conviction is in France, but the legislation allows for any subsequent fine to be recovered in the UK as if the fine had been imposed by a UK court should they wish to go that route.

Pvapour

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vonhosen said:
Pvapour said:
I know it’s a criminal offence in France to speed..
but if you get a ticket forwarded to you in uk, is it enforceable by the uk courts as a criminal offence? Or is it civil?
Haven't read it all fully (because I'm not particularly concerned about it) but my understanding is that the forwarded ticket is for a hearing/case in France & any conviction is in France, but the legislation allows for any subsequent fine to be recovered in the UK as if the fine had been imposed by a UK court should they wish to go that route.
Thanks for input..

Anyone Comment on how the courts treat unpaid fines for speeding (criminal) versus a fine for a civil matter? i have no clue having not received any for numerous years..

As i suspect the course of action taken by the courts for a non paid fine over a civil matter will be exactly the same method used for the french criminal infringement that gets transfered to uk.

vonhosen

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Pvapour

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Saturday 20th July 2019
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Handy link but doesnt state route taken to recover unpaid finds or under what authority

agtlaw

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Saturday 20th July 2019
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See CrimPR 30.10

Pvapour

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agtlaw said:
See CrimPR 30.10
448 pages! Id rather not, i do have a life thanks, have you read it?

SS2.

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267 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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Section 30.10 isn't long.

And yes, I'd wager AGT has read it !

Pvapour

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SS2. said:
Section 30.10 isn't long.

And yes, I'd wager AGT has read it !
Great! What do you think then AGT smile

Meoricin

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Saturday 20th July 2019
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Pvapour said:
Great! What do you think then AGT smile
I suspect he thinks it's relevant to your question, and thought you were capable of reading things to educate yourself rather than being spoonfed.

Earthdweller

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155 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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Meoricin said:
Pvapour said:
Great! What do you think then AGT smile
I suspect he thinks it's relevant to your question, and thought you were capable of reading things to educate yourself rather than being spoonfed.
Most likely that the court can decide that it will be treated in exactly the same way as not paying a UK Court fine

Pvapour

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Saturday 20th July 2019
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Meoricin said:
Pvapour said:
Great! What do you think then AGT smile
I suspect he thinks it's relevant to your question, and thought you were capable of reading things to educate yourself rather than being spoonfed.
Nah.. spoon feed purleeeez biggrin

Pvapour

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Sunday 21st July 2019
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Earthdweller said:
Meoricin said:
Pvapour said:
Great! What do you think then AGT smile
I suspect he thinks it's relevant to your question, and thought you were capable of reading things to educate yourself rather than being spoonfed.
Most likely that the court can decide that it will be treated in exactly the same way as not paying a UK Court fine
I suspect the same and thanks for helpful input..

Trying to find experiential evidence online or through cases is proving difficult to find though

4Q

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173 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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It’s about €45 and you can pay it easily online so why would you risk further costs?

Pvapour

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Sunday 21st July 2019
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4Q said:
It’s about €45 and you can pay it easily online so why would you risk further costs?
No idea, not my interest tbh, I’m curious in the process, hence my question

4Q

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Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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I apologise, I thought it was another of those "I've been done for speeding abroad can I ignore it" threads.
My wife and I have had three tickets sent to our uk address for a U.K. registered car this year and they usually send you a polite letter in English and French asking to pay. We've not had them before this year so something must've changed.
As we spend so much time in France we both have the App on our phones to make paying it easier as the tolerance for speeding is fairly small and the police like to hide at the side of the motorways, I think the last ticket was 134kph in 130, so it's likely we'll get caught out occasionally. We don't get points and there's been no threat of criminal charges but we've never let it escalate as it's so cheap we see as just another road toll.

Pvapour

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Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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I’ll repeat for the hard of reading..

This thread is to ascertain what happens after non payment, fek all to do with should we or shouldn’t we, I agree on paying is best if that helps you rolleyes


Edited by Pvapour on Tuesday 23 July 10:37

Pvapour

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anonymous said:
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rofl

Curious as to who you are referring to hehe maybe read again my dear winkbiggrin oh, wait a minute hehe

Big Al.

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Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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