Driveshaft part required
Driveshaft part required
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ATM

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242 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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Hello

I need a part for a driveshaft. This is a pic of the same driveshaft - mine is a lot dirtier and therefore its harder to identify the colour change of the parts. I need the silver collar type thing indicated. Not the clip which secures the gaitor. I need the silver part which the gaitor locates onto. Main dealer tells me No and can only sell me a complete driveshaft. I've measured the circumference of the black part it locates onto and it is 30cm. So I presume the silver part has a 30cm inner circumference at its larger end. Not sure if that helps at all.

Can anyone help or point me towards where I might try please?

Thanks



Old Merc

3,796 posts

190 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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That is part of the shaft, All I can suggest is get a worn out shaft from a scrap yard and try to swap it over. Mind you I bet it would be a very tricky job.
The other alternative would be a recon` shaft?

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

307 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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Difficult to make out details from the picture. Is it a pressed metal cover spacing the gater back from the hub, or something structural?

ATM

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GreenV8S said:
Difficult to make out details from the picture. Is it a pressed metal cover spacing the gater back from the hub, or something structural?
The black bit is structural. It is solid and heavy. The silver bit I need is just thin metal. I'd guess steel because mine is rusty. It's just some form of cover or junction as it presses onto the black solid piece and then allows the gaitor to locate onto it.

Maybe this pic is better and higher quality if you click the link.

Can you make out the little dimples where it has been pinched onto the black part.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xYcAAOSwrTVbRJx-/s-...


GreenV8S

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307 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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OK, that makes sense. Where the CV joint is bolted to a drive flange, the boot mounting flange is usually just trapped under the mounting bolts. The joint at the other end looks like that style. I don't see any mounting bolts at the end you're referring to and I guess the CV joint is integral with the stub axle. In that case there are no bolts so it makes sense that the boot mounting flange would be crimped to the CV joint instead. I doubt the flange would be available separately. In this case the CVS would not be available as a separate item and you'd need to replace the whole driveshaft. If it's anything recent they aren't likely to be especially expensive or difficult to get.

ATM

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£650

For the complete driveshaft

GreenV8S

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ATM said:
£650

For the complete driveshaft
eek

What's it for?

E-bmw

12,323 posts

175 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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A drive shaft...……...getmecoat

Steve_D

13,801 posts

281 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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First you need to know the diameter of the black part as circumference is not the normal way of specifying it.
You don't say what car the shaft is from.

use that info and the words 'CV boot kit' in ebay and you should find what you want.

Something like this.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Front-Inner-CV-Boot-Kit...

Steve

ATM

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GreenV8S

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Steve_D said:
First you need to know the diameter of the black part as circumference is not the normal way of specifying it.
You don't say what car the shaft is from.

use that info and the words 'CV boot kit' in ebay and you should find what you want.

Something like this.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Front-Inner-CV-Boot-Kit...

Steve
The boot flanges are typically included in a boot kit when the flange is the bolted type, but in this case it's crimped to the CV. I haven't seen any boot kits including this type of flange.

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

307 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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Obviously that car is going to need some substantial repairs. Is the drive shaft still serviceable apart from whatever is wrong with the boot flange? What is wrong with the existing flange, by the way? I was imagining corrosion, but that car doesn't look old enough for that to be an issue.

finlo

4,283 posts

226 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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I think the CV joints are the least of your worries!

E-bmw

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Saturday 20th July 2019
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finlo said:
I think the CV joints are the least of your worries!
He makes a good point!

ATM

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GreenV8S said:
Is the drive shaft still serviceable apart from whatever is wrong with the boot flange? What is wrong with the existing flange, by the way? I was imagining corrosion, but that car doesn't look old enough for that to be an issue.
I didn't want to risk it as both gaitors were destroyed which implies the angles concerned were beyond the normal range. I bought some second hand parts which included a driveshaft but it was a different length from a manual car. So a friend offered to swap the good joints from the long shaft to the short shaft. But he couldn't salvage a serviceable flange - if that's what we're calling it. So now I have a shaft of the correct length which is fine except for this flange which makes the shaft unviable as it will probably allow water in and/or grease out. I can use it temporarily to answer the question of will the car work, change gears and drive etc. But then I'll need to buy a replacement shaft just because of this flange which is a bit annoying and just wasteful.

GreenV8S

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What state is the old flange in? You'd be amazed at what can be beaten back into shape and welded back together for £650.

ATM

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GreenV8S said:
What state is the old flange in? You'd be amazed at what can be beaten back into shape and welded back together for £650.
It's very thin metal so I presumed welding was out.

GreenV8S

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ATM said:
It's very thin metal so I presumed welding was out.
Thin metal can still be welded. You'll even find people welding aluminium foil to prove a point.

Coilspring

577 posts

86 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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ATM said:
I didn't want to risk it as both gaitors were destroyed which implies the angles concerned were beyond the normal range. I bought some second hand parts which included a driveshaft but it was a different length from a manual car. So a friend offered to swap the good joints from the long shaft to the short shaft. But he couldn't salvage a serviceable flange - if that's what we're calling it. So now I have a shaft of the correct length which is fine except for this flange which makes the shaft unviable as it will probably allow water in and/or grease out. I can use it temporarily to answer the question of will the car work, change gears and drive etc. But then I'll need to buy a replacement shaft just because of this flange which is a bit annoying and just wasteful.
What about sending your shafts away for recon ?

Your local (independent) motor factor will be able to arrange and quote for you. Have had really unusual stuff done for around £100

Old Merc

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190 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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ATM said:
What the hell happened there ?? who ever was driving is very lucky. What caused that lot to fail? could it be an insurance job.