Cams & Commuting
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CAPP0

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20,881 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Can't decide whether a "dash"cam is a good idea for commuting or not? I'm not thinking about the teletubby option, more like a fixed cam (or pair of front/rear cams).

The one half of me says they'll come in useful if I get caught up in an incident of some sort, the other half says my riding would have to be 100% angelic at all times for fear of the men in pointy hats scoffing the low-hanging fruit delivered from some seized cam footage.

Just to be clear, I have zero wish or intention of becoming a DCW (or worse, a vlogger).

Whaddya reckon?

Krikkit

27,938 posts

212 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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I think a dashcam with a very small memory card to limit how much it records would be a good idea - some can also be set not to keep clips unless marked as "accident"

dibblecorse

7,647 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Do it then share daily on the commuting thread ......

You want an Innovv K2 kit ........

dibblecorse

7,647 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Do it then share daily on the commuting thread ......

You want an Innovv K2 kit ........

dern

14,055 posts

310 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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I think that the risk of incriminating evidence is a lot higher than an accident. If it isn't then go for it (or maybe some training).

spoodler

2,307 posts

186 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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I must be getting old... 'thought someone was trying to make a decision on whether "hot cam's" and wild valve timing would be suitable on a daily... Oh well, back to the shed...

CAPP0

Original Poster:

20,881 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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dern said:
I think that the risk of incriminating evidence is a lot higher than an accident. If it isn't then go for it (or maybe some training).
This is my dilemma (evidence, not the need for training biggrin). Get swiped out and suddenly it's "ah but we can see that you were over the white line at the last set of lights" or "we timed that section of road and you were x mph over the limit" etc etc.

Or am I over-imagining those potential consequences? Like I said, low-hanging fruit, easy nab, donuts all round!

dibblecorse

7,647 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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CAPP0 said:
This is my dilemma (evidence, not the need for training biggrin). Get swiped out and suddenly it's "ah but we can see that you were over the white line at the last set of lights" or "we timed that section of road and you were x mph over the limit" etc etc.

Or am I over-imagining those potential consequences? Like I said, low-hanging fruit, easy nab, donuts all round!
Over imagining ..... just don't have the clocks in view ,,,,,,

Liamjrhodes

524 posts

172 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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spoodler said:
I must be getting old... 'thought someone was trying to make a decision on whether "hot cam's" and wild valve timing would be suitable on a daily... Oh well, back to the shed...
This was my exact thought/hope!

pessimal

339 posts

112 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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would people rather have a fixed type like that, or the helmet mounted kind so your catching more of whats going on around you?

dibblecorse

7,647 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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pessimal said:
would people rather have a fixed type like that, or the helmet mounted kind so your catching more of whats going on around you?
I've avoided helmet mounted cams like the plague as they lids are designed to be smooth, any camera, mount etc can dig in, catch and twist your head, small risk but not one I'm prepared to take and also the main reason they are banned on trackdays ....

TheInternet

5,270 posts

194 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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dibblecorse said:
I've avoided helmet mounted cams like the plague as they lids are designed to be smooth, any camera, mount etc can dig in, catch and twist your head, small risk but not one I'm prepared to take and also the main reason they are banned on trackdays .... mark you out as a certain type.
EFA

dern

14,055 posts

310 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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CAPP0 said:
This is my dilemma (evidence, not the need for training biggrin). Get swiped out and suddenly it's "ah but we can see that you were over the white line at the last set of lights" or "we timed that section of road and you were x mph over the limit" etc etc.

Or am I over-imagining those potential consequences? Like I said, low-hanging fruit, easy nab, donuts all round!
I think that it would be a bit tight for them to do that but if you were wiped out by someone who claimed that you were going to quickly or behaving erratically and there was stuff on the cam that supported that then it wouldn't help. I don't have one though, maybe they only record the last 30 seconds before impact and just capture the accident and they delete the wheelies.

dibblecorse

7,647 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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TheInternet said:
dibblecorse said:
I've avoided helmet mounted cams like the plague as they lids are designed to be smooth, any camera, mount etc can dig in, catch and twist your head, small risk but not one I'm prepared to take and also the main reason they are banned on trackdays .... mark you out as a certain type.
EFA
Thanks, no idea what I was thinking !!!

Fire99

9,868 posts

260 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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spoodler said:
I must be getting old... 'thought someone was trying to make a decision on whether "hot cam's" and wild valve timing would be suitable on a daily... Oh well, back to the shed...
biggrin You are not alone.. That's exactly what I thought. I was expecting issues with a lumpy idle and bogging down when pulling away from traffic lights. hehe Back in my shell...

Hungrymc

7,449 posts

168 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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I think there is a real risk of the recording being used against you. You would have to be the unlucky minority and I guess it depends how you ride / drive. I have one in my commuting car, but not in my fun car and not on my bikes.


GadgeS3C

4,727 posts

195 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Fire99 said:
spoodler said:
I must be getting old... 'thought someone was trying to make a decision on whether "hot cam's" and wild valve timing would be suitable on a daily... Oh well, back to the shed...
biggrin You are not alone.. That's exactly what I thought. I was expecting issues with a lumpy idle and bogging down when pulling away from traffic lights. hehe Back in my shell...
Big carbs, hot cams & lumpy pistons cloud9 - I really am getting old, glad I'm not alone!

WinstonWolf

72,863 posts

270 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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dibblecorse said:
pessimal said:
would people rather have a fixed type like that, or the helmet mounted kind so your catching more of whats going on around you?
I've avoided helmet mounted cams like the plague as they lids are designed to be smooth, any camera, mount etc can dig in, catch and twist your head, small risk but not one I'm prepared to take and also the main reason they are banned on trackdays ....
Although it was a different type of lid the Schumacher incident makes me uncomfortable with the thought of anything affixed to the helmet.

Hungrymc

7,449 posts

168 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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WinstonWolf said:
Although it was a different type of lid the Schumacher incident makes me uncomfortable with the thought of anything affixed to the helmet.
Just for interest / comparison, the "peak" on an off road helmet looks like a disaster waiting to happen. But the fixings are designed the fail at very low loads and so it detaches in very light offs. I didn't like the look of it when I started, I now get a bit annoyed at the amount of fixings I get through.

WinstonWolf

72,863 posts

270 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Hungrymc said:
WinstonWolf said:
Although it was a different type of lid the Schumacher incident makes me uncomfortable with the thought of anything affixed to the helmet.
Just for interest / comparison, the "peak" on an off road helmet looks like a disaster waiting to happen. But the fixings are designed the fail at very low loads and so it detaches in very light offs. I didn't like the look of it when I started, I now get a bit annoyed at the amount of fixings I get through.
When I had a big off years ago the rim of my WW11 flying goggles poked a hole in my eyelid yikes On the plus side they looked very authentic afterwards hehe