VWFS – Delivery Mileage
VWFS – Delivery Mileage
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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Hi all, two years ago I leased a VW via CVL, financed through VWFS. The car was delivered with 120 miles on it.

I returned the car three months early with 435 miles over the contracted mileage of 10000 miles. VWFS have calculated an allowed mileage based on the early return of the vehicle of 8800 miles, meaning I have excess of 1635 miles to pay, at a cost of 10.8p inc. VAT.

I called to ask if the delivery mileage had been factored in and have been told that they work on the basis that the car arrives with the customer with 0 miles.

Is this correct? It's certainly not been the case with any other car I have leased, and at no point was I made aware of this in any correspondence with the lease provider or the supplying dealer.



PS. Realise this isn't something worth getting aeriated about.

Monkeylegend

29,141 posts

260 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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Were you hoping to avoid excess mileage charges with the early return?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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No, early return was made because of the arrival of another car. I was aware the contracted mileage would be reduced in proportion to the hire period.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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BenjiS said:
Even if they factor in the delivery mileage, that's only a reduction in your bill of 13 quid. Is it really worth the hassle?
What hassle?

kiethton

14,635 posts

209 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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BenjiS said:
Hassle in trying to persuade VWFS to reduce the bill.
Logic says that's a function of you're tax-adjusted income and opportunity cost of time. At its simplest, if the OP's on minimum wage and it takes <c.2.5 hours its worth doing so - obviously less time if paid more.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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I’ve only asked the question, it’s not really any hassle. It’s not something I’ve encountered on any other lease car, in fact most have been clear in stating that delivery mileage doesn’t count towards your contracted mileage. I was curious to know if what VWFS have told me is correct as my previous dealings with them don’t inspire any trust.

Baldchap

9,623 posts

121 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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Begs the question what is acceptable delivery mileage?

Our Lotus arrived with 2 on the clock, other things ranged from about 16 up to the highest at 49, which I thought was a touch high for a brand new car.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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Baldchap said:
Begs the question what is acceptable delivery mileage?

Our Lotus arrived with 2 on the clock, other things ranged from about 16 up to the highest at 49, which I thought was a touch high for a brand new car.
I think it is accepted that a lease car will likely be a driven delivery, which I'm fine with. I don't think those miles should make a dent in your contracted mileage, after all you have no choice in the supplying dealer in most cases. What if I live in Aberdeen and the supplying dealer ends up being in Portsmouth? Should you suffer a 600 mile reduction in your mileage allowance?

I've never bought a new car that has came with more than 9 miles on it. 49 is ridiculous and I'd have been asking questions.

Integroo

11,631 posts

114 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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kiethton said:
Logic says that's a function of you're tax-adjusted income and opportunity cost of time. At its simplest, if the OP's on minimum wage and it takes <c.2.5 hours its worth doing so - obviously less time if paid more.
Only if you are paid on an hourly basis.

Roo

11,504 posts

236 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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Baldchap said:
Begs the question what is acceptable delivery mileage?

Our Lotus arrived with 2 on the clock, other things ranged from about 16 up to the highest at 49, which I thought was a touch high for a brand new car.
I used to work for a franchise where every car came with a window sticker saying that vehicles were randomly selected for extended test driving and could have up to 150 miles on them.

kiethton

14,635 posts

209 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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Integroo said:
kiethton said:
Logic says that's a function of you're tax-adjusted income and opportunity cost of time. At its simplest, if the OP's on minimum wage and it takes <c.2.5 hours its worth doing so - obviously less time if paid more.
Only if you are paid on an hourly basis.
Fair but you can always (within reason) pro-rata a salary to an hourly rate. Penny saved is a penny earned and all that....

ForzaGilles

565 posts

253 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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My leased Golf arrived with 125 miles on it when delivered. I hope that's taken into account when it goes back in January..

anonymous-user

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83 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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ForzaGilles said:
My leased Golf arrived with 125 miles on it when delivered. I hope that's taken into account when it goes back in January..
If it's with VWFS then it won't be – they don't even have record of the mileage the car arrives with at the customer. They base their mileage quota on the car being delivered with zero miles on it.

Terminator X

20,450 posts

233 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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Don't pay any of it, they can't enforce it.

TX.

Edit - perhaps ignore me, leasing different to PCP redface

2nd edit

"There are many types of car finance, and not all of them are equally protected. If you have a lease (such as a contract hire or operating lease), then you are more limited in your options.

It’s expensive getting out of a lease early, and there is limited support available to help you. You are simply renting the vehicle, with no intention of eventually owning it. As a result, you are not covered by VT rights like you are with a PCP or HP."

Edited by Terminator X on Thursday 25th July 15:49


Edited by Terminator X on Thursday 25th July 15:52

loskie

7,080 posts

149 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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my lease Astra arrived on a trailer from Greenhause(?sp) 7 Miles on it which was deducted at end of lease.


It came to SW Scotland on a beavertail trailer I just presumed it would be a driven delivery.

Unclegerry

138 posts

123 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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andrewparker said:
Hi all, two years ago I leased a VW via CVL, financed through VWFS. The car was delivered with 120 miles on it.

I returned the car three months early with 435 miles over the contracted mileage of 10000 miles. VWFS have calculated an allowed mileage based on the early return of the vehicle of 8800 miles, meaning I have excess of 1635 miles to pay, at a cost of 10.8p inc. VAT.

I called to ask if the delivery mileage had been factored in and have been told that they work on the basis that the car arrives with the customer with 0 miles.

Is this correct? It's certainly not been the case with any other car I have leased, and at no point was I made aware of this in any correspondence with the lease provider or the supplying dealer.


PS. Realise this isn't something worth getting aeriated about.
I asked VW the same question, they said it was up to the supplying dealer to fund it. When I checked my paperwork, it said delivery to home address, but made no mention of wether it was free or not. Guess a point to bring up at the quote/ordering stage next time.

PSB1

4,245 posts

133 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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This could well be the next PPI-like scandal. Compo required.

mcflurry

9,188 posts

282 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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Do you have a date stamped picture or document showing the car had that mileage when it was given to you?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 26th July 2019
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mcflurry said:
Do you have a date stamped picture or document showing the car had that mileage when it was given to you?
I've got the delivery note from Inchcape VW Telford showing the starting mileage of 120 miles.

mcflurry

9,188 posts

282 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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andrewparker said:
mcflurry said:
Do you have a date stamped picture or document showing the car had that mileage when it was given to you?
I've got the delivery note from Inchcape VW Telford showing the starting mileage of 120 miles.
Then I would make the payment, knocking off the value of the 120 miles, enclosing a copy of the delivery note with the starting mileage highlighted smile