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I’ve recently taken on another pub. I’m now shifting kegs between them and my cash and carry load is now double. I regularly have stock piled up in the back seats of my civic as the boots full.
My accountant told me to look into getting a pickup mainly to claim the vat back.
Having a look at what’s local with vat chargeable and under 5 years old I see that Great Wall Street (never seen one in the flesh) seem to be the cheapest (probably too cheap) followed in order by Navara’s, L200’s, Rangers, Amarok’s then the hi-lux.
Since this is a practical choice I’m inclined to go with a navara. I’ve heard of issues with early editions of rust splitting the chassis in two, has this been completely rectified? Is there any hints/tips/recommendations anyone should care to share?
My accountant told me to look into getting a pickup mainly to claim the vat back.
Having a look at what’s local with vat chargeable and under 5 years old I see that Great Wall Street (never seen one in the flesh) seem to be the cheapest (probably too cheap) followed in order by Navara’s, L200’s, Rangers, Amarok’s then the hi-lux.
Since this is a practical choice I’m inclined to go with a navara. I’ve heard of issues with early editions of rust splitting the chassis in two, has this been completely rectified? Is there any hints/tips/recommendations anyone should care to share?
Edited by BeerBoy on Saturday 27th July 07:51
There was a recall to check the Navara chassis last year.
Mine was checked and all clear, so most should have been done by now. It wasn't the big hoohah people made it out to be, but people do like to make a drama out of a crisis
I loved mine, only got rid because we needed an auto for my short wife as she couldn't change gear properly.
If it doesn't stop you doing what you need, put a truckman top on it, makes it a massive vehicle with additional security
Mine was checked and all clear, so most should have been done by now. It wasn't the big hoohah people made it out to be, but people do like to make a drama out of a crisis
I loved mine, only got rid because we needed an auto for my short wife as she couldn't change gear properly.
If it doesn't stop you doing what you need, put a truckman top on it, makes it a massive vehicle with additional security
Not much help here, but there must be thousands of nearly new VAT qualifying pick ups available? I wouldn't buy new, let someone else take the depreciation hit. And despite being able to claim it back, you still have to lay it out in the first place.
Have a look at a few and choose the one that suits you best. A Truckman Top is a good shout. Nothing to jacked up, I guess. I wouldn't want to lift a 88 pint keg down from high up.
Have a look at a few and choose the one that suits you best. A Truckman Top is a good shout. Nothing to jacked up, I guess. I wouldn't want to lift a 88 pint keg down from high up.
Have no idea what any of them are like to drive, but the new shape Ranger Wildtrack looks the business!!
FWIW I thought the Navara chassis splitting issue was largely down to tradesmen over loading the back - above and beyond the max payload limit. Sure there must have been an issue as none of the other trucks did it, but I as the poster above said, I don’t think it was as bad as was made out. Obviously if you’re buying used it would be worth a check by a professional.
FWIW I thought the Navara chassis splitting issue was largely down to tradesmen over loading the back - above and beyond the max payload limit. Sure there must have been an issue as none of the other trucks did it, but I as the poster above said, I don’t think it was as bad as was made out. Obviously if you’re buying used it would be worth a check by a professional.
Ssangyong Musso has a great interior. 4x4 low ratio, Euro6, 178 HP.
£18K ex vat.
https://www.ssangyonggb.co.uk/new/ssangyong/musso
£18K ex vat.
https://www.ssangyonggb.co.uk/new/ssangyong/musso
Edited by Slushbox on Saturday 27th July 08:17
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Was very close to buying a 3.3 Wildtrack last month but the fuel economy stories held me off, they’re meant to be abysmal.
New makes sense when you can claim the VAT back to make up your deposit on a low rate finance (ford were/are 0%).
We were looking at one too and took one for a 48 hr test drive. We managed 30mpg with my wife driving so if you thought about it you would probably be looking at around 35. New makes sense when you can claim the VAT back to make up your deposit on a low rate finance (ford were/are 0%).
I bought a Ranger Wildtrack 3.2 earlier this year and it is superb! It is the biggest truck in the UK market and you do notice the others lacking a bit of space in comparison. I personally would be happy to even go a touch bigger if there was such a truck in the UK market, I definitely wouldn’t go smaller though which immediately wrote off the x class / Navara, etc.
If you are buying with a ltd company then the discount on fuel is so significant that fuel economy is pretty much meaningless (unless you care about your environmental impact - in which case the new 2.0 engine is a good choice).
It’s great inside, feels chunky and durable just as it should with enough modern tech to keep most happy.
If you are buying with a ltd company then the discount on fuel is so significant that fuel economy is pretty much meaningless (unless you care about your environmental impact - in which case the new 2.0 engine is a good choice).
It’s great inside, feels chunky and durable just as it should with enough modern tech to keep most happy.
Isuzu D-max.
They have a few decent spec models and in our experience with trucks they are very good.
My work fleet has gone from hilux's and rangers to dmax's and there's been no complaints.
I'd be reluctant to spend my own money on a ranger based on our work fleet, several have had replacement engines.
They have a few decent spec models and in our experience with trucks they are very good.
My work fleet has gone from hilux's and rangers to dmax's and there's been no complaints.
I'd be reluctant to spend my own money on a ranger based on our work fleet, several have had replacement engines.
Edited by MrAverage on Sunday 28th July 08:11
sealtt said:
I bought a Ranger Wildtrack 3.2 earlier this year and it is superb! It is the biggest truck in the UK market and you do notice the others lacking a bit of space in comparison. I personally would be happy to even go a touch bigger if there was such a truck in the UK market, I definitely wouldn’t go smaller though which immediately wrote off the x class / Navara, etc.
If you are buying with a ltd company then the discount on fuel is so significant that fuel economy is pretty much meaningless (unless you care about your environmental impact - in which case the new 2.0 engine is a good choice).
It’s great inside, feels chunky and durable just as it should with enough modern tech to keep most happy.
What relevance is a LTD company? If you are buying with a ltd company then the discount on fuel is so significant that fuel economy is pretty much meaningless (unless you care about your environmental impact - in which case the new 2.0 engine is a good choice).
It’s great inside, feels chunky and durable just as it should with enough modern tech to keep most happy.
The Ranger is a much nicer, comfier thing than the L200. I'd put it above the Hilux too in terms of comfort and driving experience, although of course the Hilux will last forever.
But as a few have already mentioned, a combi/crew cab van might be worth a look. Generally more spacious than a double cab pickup for both cargo and passengers, lower load floor so much less painful to load/unload heavy items like beer barrels, more economical and better to drive on the road than an off-road pickup.
But as a few have already mentioned, a combi/crew cab van might be worth a look. Generally more spacious than a double cab pickup for both cargo and passengers, lower load floor so much less painful to load/unload heavy items like beer barrels, more economical and better to drive on the road than an off-road pickup.
As some others have already said, if I was in your position, I wouldn't consider a pickup for this. The loading bay is really awkward to access - when the tailgate drops you're an extra couple of feet away from the loading area. I would look at some kind of van - much easier to load.
I have a Toyota Hilux and a small fleet of Fiat Ducato vans. I bought the Hilux to replace a Discovery which got slightly crashed. I run an agricultural contracting business, so 4x4 and heavy towing capabilities get used regularly. I thought the Toyota would be more practical than another Disco, but a lot of the time it's not. It's also mahoosive - as are all dual-cab pickups - a nightmare to park in town (parking spaces aren't long enough).
I would never want a pickup as my only vehicle.
I have a Toyota Hilux and a small fleet of Fiat Ducato vans. I bought the Hilux to replace a Discovery which got slightly crashed. I run an agricultural contracting business, so 4x4 and heavy towing capabilities get used regularly. I thought the Toyota would be more practical than another Disco, but a lot of the time it's not. It's also mahoosive - as are all dual-cab pickups - a nightmare to park in town (parking spaces aren't long enough).
I would never want a pickup as my only vehicle.
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