Boring company car
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JacobsCracker

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32 posts

107 months

Saturday 27th July 2019
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The time has finally come to order a new company car after mine has been delayed 4 months. I have never had a new car (owned or company) so I can't wait!

Previous cars (also boring Punto 1.2, Punto 1.9, Ibiza 1.9, V40 D2, and an A3 saloon (company).

My Audi A3 saloon 1.6tdi is very good at being a competent car, and that's it... It's neither exciting nor fast it is however very economical, 48.9mpg over 20,000 miles with a heavy right foot. It has no equipment whatsoever not even sat nav which is very frustrating with 20,000 business miles. Can't wait for it to go.

The new car list had a massive range of options from hybrid Lexus to a Octavia VRS and a Volvo XC40. I chose to settle on hopefully a blend of economy, toys and hopefully a good drive...

I have gone for the new A200 saloon, AMG line premium plus, which is basically all the toys apart from HUD. It's 163bhp 1.3 petrol turbo. I could have opted an A250 which is 2.0l turbo but I chose not to as my regular commute (not business) is 55 miles each way.

The only other input I had was the colour choice, Denim blue. Every other option was a variant of grey/silver/white.

I can't wait. I might even post a picture if anyone is interested when it arrives laugh and my best effort at a review!

I'll probably do it anyway .......

RC1807

13,631 posts

196 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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Model badging confuses the hell out of me now
200 is 1.3T?


Look forward to seeing the car....

Court_S

14,660 posts

205 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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And I guess keeping one eye on the BIK tax costs too I guess. I’m coming to the end of my time with a vRS company car. It’s been a great car (brisk, economical, massive inside, easy to use etc) but my god it’s expensive now. Two years of big hikes on tax now the government have decided that diesel is evil.

I’ve opted out and with the tax savings and my car allowance, a 140 is going to cost me less. Annoyingly the eGolf is now back on our list. I’d have cancelled my 140 order for one because they’re so sodding cheap as a company car user. It would have meant some compromises but the cash saving would have been worth it. One of our directors has just ordered a Kia Ev to replace his 320d and he reckons he’ll be £5k a year better off including fuel. That’s a lot.

JacobsCracker

Original Poster:

32 posts

107 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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RC1807 said:
Model badging confuses the hell out of me now
200 is 1.3T?


Look forward to seeing the car....
I know bizzare isn't it, considering its replacing 2.1l from the previous model.

anonymous-user

82 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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Who would have thought a renault engine powering a mercedes, seems to work well though.

JacobsCracker

Original Poster:

32 posts

107 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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Court_S said:
And I guess keeping one eye on the BIK tax costs too I guess. I’m coming to the end of my time with a vRS company car. It’s been a great car (brisk, economical, massive inside, easy to use etc) but my god it’s expensive now. Two years of big hikes on tax now the government have decided that diesel is evil.

I’ve opted out and with the tax savings and my car allowance, a 140 is going to cost me less. Annoyingly the eGolf is now back on our list. I’d have cancelled my 140 order for one because they’re so sodding cheap as a company car user. It would have meant some compromises but the cash saving would have been worth it. One of our directors has just ordered a Kia Ev to replace his 320d and he reckons he’ll be £5k a year better off including fuel. That’s a lot.
Yes exactly, the BIK cost was about £50 a month better off than any form of diesel.

thecremeegg

2,096 posts

231 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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Court_S said:
And I guess keeping one eye on the BIK tax costs too I guess. I’m coming to the end of my time with a vRS company car. It’s been a great car (brisk, economical, massive inside, easy to use etc) but my god it’s expensive now. Two years of big hikes on tax now the government have decided that diesel is evil.

I’ve opted out and with the tax savings and my car allowance, a 140 is going to cost me less. Annoyingly the eGolf is now back on our list. I’d have cancelled my 140 order for one because they’re so sodding cheap as a company car user. It would have meant some compromises but the cash saving would have been worth it. One of our directors has just ordered a Kia Ev to replace his 320d and he reckons he’ll be £5k a year better off including fuel. That’s a lot.
I'd rather spend the extra on a 140 than have to drive an eGolf!

Court_S

14,660 posts

205 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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thecremeegg said:
I'd rather spend the extra on a 140 than have to drive an eGolf!
rofl The quantity surveyor (I.e tight) in me was tempted though. As of next financial year EV’s attract no BIK tax so the cost is purely the loss of a car allowance.

anonymous-user

82 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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I usually have a think about how much tax I’m willing to pay then pick the car from there. There’s a big drop in tax next year on PHEV’s and EV’s.

Also try to pick something that goes under the radar as I sometimes have to leave it in so iffy places

RhysH

112 posts

95 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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I have done the opposite, the company car list in work has gone terrible ( few years ago was a great spread). Now basically all you have have is a 320d se... at circa $345 a month BIK I have diced to take the cash and run. Our company cars are kept for 4 years, my concern was having a car which I would not choose and get stuck with it for 4 years with the potential tax rises in the future!

So I have now opted out, though work really wants us all to go this way. Basically once we are out, we are out........


So what next... Again gone opposite, as I don't want to take finance out right now and want to bank some money I have just put a deposit on a 58 plate E Class 320CDI lol. So old barge to do some mileage lugging for next year and only cost me maintenance with no finance payments.

Of course im going to put a thread on it once get it. Just see how it handles the next 12 months.


Court_S

14,660 posts

205 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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RhysH said:
I have done the opposite, the company car list in work has gone terrible ( few years ago was a great spread). Now basically all you have have is a 320d se... at circa $345 a month BIK I have diced to take the cash and run. Our company cars are kept for 4 years, my concern was having a car which I would not choose and get stuck with it for 4 years with the potential tax rises in the future!

So I have now opted out, though work really wants us all to go this way. Basically once we are out, we are out........


So what next... Again gone opposite, as I don't want to take finance out right now and want to bank some money I have just put a deposit on a 58 plate E Class 320CDI lol. So old barge to do some mileage lugging for next year and only cost me maintenance with no finance payments.

Of course im going to put a thread on it once get it. Just see how it handles the next 12 months.
The only guarantee with BIK is that it goes up. Diesel is now very expensive. Will be interesting to hear how you get on with an older barge.

JacobsCracker

Original Poster:

32 posts

107 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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I would have definitely taken car allowance but unfortunately my position is an "essential user" so opting out is not an option....

My big plans for a 335d coupe were ruined. Although as has been mentioned, perhaps for the best I didn't grab a big oil burner right now!

Mr Tidy

31,021 posts

155 months

Sunday 28th July 2019
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Shame you can't opt out - that certainly limits your options!

Looking back I was lucky to get the choice of a company car or opting out for an allowance back in 2004.

As the company car options were pretty boring I opted out and took the allowance, although the HMRC business mileage rates pretty much dictated a diesel.

I hope you can find something you like - or can at least live with. thumbup

JacobsCracker

Original Poster:

32 posts

107 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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Mr Tidy said:
Shame you can't opt out - that certainly limits your options!

Looking back I was lucky to get the choice of a company car or opting out for an allowance back in 2004.

As the company car options were pretty boring I opted out and took the allowance, although the HMRC business mileage rates pretty much dictated a diesel.

I hope you can find something you like - or can at least live with. thumbup
Fingers crossed the A200 drives well enough to keep me entertained, it certainly has enough toys to keep me entertained.

I wish I could have driven one before ordering but it was a "live list" where cars were removed once they ran out of stock. As the list was 4 months late there was a massive backlog of orders and the list kept getting smaller the longer I looked at it.

AlmostUseful

3,319 posts

228 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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JacobsCracker said:
I would have definitely taken car allowance but unfortunately my position is an "essential user" so opting out is not an option....

My big plans for a 335d coupe were ruined. Although as has been mentioned, perhaps for the best I didn't grab a big oil burner right now!
I opted out and bought a 3 year old 335D, I wish I hadn’t bothered. Very dull car that wasn’t worth the money or the loss when I sold it, current E220cdi that replaced (5 years old) has been better in every way except outright acceleration.


Mr Tidy

31,021 posts

155 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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AlmostUseful said:
I opted out and bought a 3 year old 335D, I wish I hadn’t bothered. Very dull car that wasn’t worth the money or the loss when I sold it, current E220cdi that replaced (5 years old) has been better in every way except outright acceleration.
When I opted out I bought a pre-registered 123d and really liked it - just not the depreciation! eek

So after business miles ended I replaced it with a BMW Z4 Coupe, and realised what I had been missing! rolleyes

Court_S

14,660 posts

205 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Mr Tidy said:
When I opted out I bought a pre-registered 123d and really liked it - just not the depreciation! eek

So after business miles ended I replaced it with a BMW Z4 Coupe, and realised what I had been missing! rolleyes
I’m not stressing about depreciation on my 140 as it’s being funded by a car allowance and I know it’s going to be brutal because of all those cheap finance deals. I’m just treating the allowance as a different pot of money that’s not really mine...plus it’s better than spunking loads away in tax.

JacobsCracker

Original Poster:

32 posts

107 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Another factor I hadn't considered until about 5 minutes when a colleague mentioned his issue.. the car allowance has pushed him over the tax threshold and is now costing him even more!

Court_S

14,660 posts

205 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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JacobsCracker said:
Another factor I hadn't considered until about 5 minutes when a colleague mentioned his issue.. the car allowance has pushed him over the tax threshold and is now costing him even more!
Company cars can do the same too.

anonymous-user

82 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Court_S said:
The only guarantee with BIK is that it goes up. Diesel is now very expensive. Will be interesting to hear how you get on with an older barge.
Depending on the car, that's not true. My BIK reduces next year (20/21 financial year). Admittedly that's not the norm, but everything else goes up too... fuel, insurance, tyres... cry