Hubris coming back to bite you in F1.
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As much as I enjoy watching Hamilton and massively respect Mercedes for so consistently being the best team, there is a certain feeling of pride coming before a fall when you choose a home GP to deck the place in Mercedes adverts, paint your cars a one-off livery and dress everyone up for a massive PR exercise, only for the rain gods to leave you with a bloody nose and some smashed up pride as your cars hit those very adverts.
I was trying to think of others- didn't Schumacher have a custom helmet made for the final race where he hoped to overturn a small deficit to Mika? He started on pole, but stalled on the start line, was sent to the back of the grid for the restart and ended the race with a slow puncture. Nightmare. I loved it.
Any other memorable ones?
I was trying to think of others- didn't Schumacher have a custom helmet made for the final race where he hoped to overturn a small deficit to Mika? He started on pole, but stalled on the start line, was sent to the back of the grid for the restart and ended the race with a slow puncture. Nightmare. I loved it.
Any other memorable ones?
Edited by glazbagun on Monday 29th July 19:26
I seem to remember red bull in the early days had a big diamond placed in the nose of each car at monaco for a promotional thing, only for one of the cars to crash and the diamond was never to be found again!
Edit: it was jaguar https://www.gq.com.au/entertainment/tech/the-insan...
Edit: it was jaguar https://www.gq.com.au/entertainment/tech/the-insan...
Another Mercedes one was the 1935 German GP, in front of a massive partisan crowd and most of the Nazi High Command. So confident were they of a German victory that they only had the German national anthem cued up for the podium ceremony, so when Nuvolari came through to win in his Alfa he had to fetch his own recording of the Italian anthem that he carried in his road car.
I little unfair to consider this hubris - but David Coulthards final race was a proper wet fart after a heavy night of beer & curry;
MasterCard:
Tick - unique Red Bull livery (even his team mates car was different!)
Tick - supporting a charity
Tick - his final race after 15years/~250 starts
Tick - permission to perform doughnuts after the flag
Tick - taken out at the very first corner
MasterCard:
Tick - unique Red Bull livery (even his team mates car was different!)
Tick - supporting a charity
Tick - his final race after 15years/~250 starts
Tick - permission to perform doughnuts after the flag
Tick - taken out at the very first corner
Toto pretty much said that it was difficult to focus on the race weekend when all that extraneous crap was going on.
Of course it wasn’t to blame for all that went on, but everyone has to be 100% on it and fancy dress isn’t really conducive.
He reminded me a bit of when Alex Ferguson, commenting after a poor showing by Man U in a grey away kit, said they’d never be seen in that strip again. And they weren’t.
Of course it wasn’t to blame for all that went on, but everyone has to be 100% on it and fancy dress isn’t really conducive.
He reminded me a bit of when Alex Ferguson, commenting after a poor showing by Man U in a grey away kit, said they’d never be seen in that strip again. And they weren’t.
It was an absolute perfect storm for Merc. So many special measures, special circumstances, special celebrations, special Merc staff, it would have been too perfect for everything to go to plan. I think that was more what Toto was getting at - he mentioned karma a few times over the weekend rather than it actually being a distraction. I do think though that's it's actually been the most high profile clusterf
k in the history of the sport.
Such a shame though as it really injected some extra soul into an otherwise clinical sport. I loved the 50's gear.
It'll never happen again though now. The netflix episode is going to be stellar however.
How about Maldonado's win at Spain, to be capped off with a huge fire in the Williams pit? Talk about back to earth with a bang.
k in the history of the sport.Such a shame though as it really injected some extra soul into an otherwise clinical sport. I loved the 50's gear.
It'll never happen again though now. The netflix episode is going to be stellar however.
How about Maldonado's win at Spain, to be capped off with a huge fire in the Williams pit? Talk about back to earth with a bang.
Edited by Andy S15 on Tuesday 30th July 07:57
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Andy S15 said:
How about Maldonado's win at Spain, to be capped off with a huge fire in the Williams pit? Talk about back to earth with a bang.
Gawd, yeah I forgot about that! Wasn't it an anniversary as well, Frank's 70th birthday?But that's for a conspiracy thread.
As for the Hubris, I would put Austrailia 1999. A certain Craig Pollock bigging up BAR, talking about how they could win their first F1 race. They couldn't even finish.
sgtBerbatov said:
Well, depending on who you speak to, that fire wasn't a total accident. And the win wasn't as amazing as it seems.
But that's for a conspiracy thread.
As for the Hubris, I would put Austrailia 1999. A certain Craig Pollock bigging up BAR, talking about how they could win their first F1 race. They couldn't even finish.
I must have missed this - why wasn't the win amazing? But that's for a conspiracy thread.
As for the Hubris, I would put Austrailia 1999. A certain Craig Pollock bigging up BAR, talking about how they could win their first F1 race. They couldn't even finish.
glazbagun said:
As much as I enjoy watching Hamilton and massively respect Mercedes for so consistently being the best team, there is a certain feeling of pride coming before a fall when you choose a home GP to deck the place in Mercedes adverts, paint your cars a one-off livery and dress everyone up for a massive PR exercise, only for the rain gods to leave you with a bloody nose and some smashed up pride as your cars hit those very adverts.
Somehow that didn't occur to me. There was something that seemed a little amusing though about seeing a Ferrari get taken out by the Merc advert.
Andy S15 said:
Speed Badger said:
I must have missed this - why wasn't the win amazing?
The conspiracy theory goes that Williams received special tyres or/and were allowed to use special car settings courtesy of Bernie to commemorate Franks 70th. The fire was then to cover up any evidence.
Andy S15 said:
Speed Badger said:
I must have missed this - why wasn't the win amazing?
The conspiracy theory goes that Williams received special tyres or/and were allowed to use special car settings courtesy of Bernie to commemorate Franks 70th. The fire was then to cover up any evidence.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff