MOT tomorrow blade wont start! Help!
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My 2005 Fireblade will not start and I have an MOT tomorrow 3pm!
It's hardly used so has been sat for months on an optimate.
Running fine when I parked it. Thought battery might have died as it was cranking over slowly but just chucked a new battery on and its still not starting.
Turns over fine, checked the kill switch, can hear fuel sloshing in the tank but the low fuel light did come once when I was trying to start it.
Any ideas? Can smell fuel, just turns over and nothing. Dash all lights up ok but when I turn the key I don't hear the fuel pump prime.
It's hardly used so has been sat for months on an optimate.
Running fine when I parked it. Thought battery might have died as it was cranking over slowly but just chucked a new battery on and its still not starting.
Turns over fine, checked the kill switch, can hear fuel sloshing in the tank but the low fuel light did come once when I was trying to start it.
Any ideas? Can smell fuel, just turns over and nothing. Dash all lights up ok but when I turn the key I don't hear the fuel pump prime.
When you say checked kill switch. What do you mean, electrically or just that it is set right. They are a fault on the Blade. Having had this issue with mine I would start with checking that thoroughly It's a cheap fix at this stage. Don't do like I did and spent a small fortune on other stuff to find it was this relatively cheap part that had failed
So far I have stripped the fairing off and taken the alarm unit (system 3) apart, checked the output and found 1 of the 2 immobiliser circuits permanently open, the other permanently closed (this was the starter) so the starter would turn even with the immobiliser on. I have shorted both with wire now, engine turns but still no fire. I have 12v at the other circuit but wherever it leads could be duff.
The kill switch toggles with dashboard recycling with the FI and HESD icons so I'm sure its working correctly.
Checking for spark isn't going to happen, its 4 coil sticks under a ton of injectors and airbox/fuel tank, the plugs and coils were replaced in the last 5 years and probably sub 500 miles. Was a nightmare to do.
I have checked the FI fuse under the seat and the whole fusebox on the left of the bike, only one I haven't checked is the main fuse but the bike isn't completely dead so that's fine.
The kill switch toggles with dashboard recycling with the FI and HESD icons so I'm sure its working correctly.
Checking for spark isn't going to happen, its 4 coil sticks under a ton of injectors and airbox/fuel tank, the plugs and coils were replaced in the last 5 years and probably sub 500 miles. Was a nightmare to do.
I have checked the FI fuse under the seat and the whole fusebox on the left of the bike, only one I haven't checked is the main fuse but the bike isn't completely dead so that's fine.
Have you tried filling it up with fresh fuel? This would be my first priority especially if the low fuel light is on and the bike has been sitting for a while.
I'd be trying to dilute the old fuel out (or drain it preferably) and use new fuel.
I'd run the starter for 10 seconds, then rest for 10 seconds, run for 10, rest for 10. Alternate this a few times. Then give it a minute to cool. Repeat again.
The system 3 is getting on a bit. I'd probably suggest just removing it, especially if you already have HISS or similar. I can understand if this is not an option for you though.
I'd be trying to dilute the old fuel out (or drain it preferably) and use new fuel.
I'd run the starter for 10 seconds, then rest for 10 seconds, run for 10, rest for 10. Alternate this a few times. Then give it a minute to cool. Repeat again.
The system 3 is getting on a bit. I'd probably suggest just removing it, especially if you already have HISS or similar. I can understand if this is not an option for you though.
Edited by bluezedd on Friday 2nd August 20:35
bluezedd said:
Have you tried filling it up with fresh fuel? This would be my first priority especially if the low fuel light is on and the bike has been sitting for a while.
I'd be trying to dilute the old fuel out (or drain it preferably) and use new fuel.
I'd run the starter for 10 seconds, then rest for 10 seconds, run for 10, rest for 10. Alternate this a few times. Then give it a minute to cool. Repeat again.
The system 3 is getting on a bit. I'd probably suggest just removing it, especially if you already have HISS or similar. I can understand if this is not an option for you though.
I haven't tried filling it up as I didn't want to end up having a full tank that I may need to remove, I may try this in the morning though.I'd be trying to dilute the old fuel out (or drain it preferably) and use new fuel.
I'd run the starter for 10 seconds, then rest for 10 seconds, run for 10, rest for 10. Alternate this a few times. Then give it a minute to cool. Repeat again.
The system 3 is getting on a bit. I'd probably suggest just removing it, especially if you already have HISS or similar. I can understand if this is not an option for you though.
Edited by bluezedd on Friday 2nd August 20:35
The new battery has gotten weak so its on charge now, concerned about burning out the starter at this point so only running it for a few seconds.
Yeah the system 3 is ancient installed when new so 13/14 years on it, since I have bypassed the immobiliser I'll remove it eventually.
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