993 v 997 Gen 2
Discussion
Well its early days but Im getting my funds in order to buy a 911, being a Cayman owner for the last 6 years (currently on a 981).
Im a bit torn between the 2 above cars and looking for opinions on ownership on both cars. It will be my daily, as i only do 5k per year.
what jumps out is a 100K+ v 40k ish mileage car. I do have local indie (Unit 11) who can help with the 993.
Im a bit torn between the 2 above cars and looking for opinions on ownership on both cars. It will be my daily, as i only do 5k per year.
what jumps out is a 100K+ v 40k ish mileage car. I do have local indie (Unit 11) who can help with the 993.
I've had 3 x 993's & 2 x 997's in the past. I used a 993 Targa as a daily for 18 months.
For me, using the 993 daily was perfectly fine, they're great sports cars, definitely enough fun, however piling on the miles and worry about maintenance / rust on components etc started to take the shine off. As a 'Classic' they're too special for a daily. I ended up getting another car to commute in and kept the 993 as another weekend car.
The 997 is a fab modern sports car, with enough of the old school Porsche in it to make it special and you can definitely see / feel the relation back to the 993. Dash / interior / ride / steering etc are similar for sure, but you get more reliability, more modern tech (PCM is still crap however) but Bluetooth etc are worth having in a daily.
Assume you're after a manual? If so, do not discount the base Carrera (non S) model. Against a friends Carrera S there was hardly anything in it on the road & it's thought the 3.6 spins slightly sweeter than the 3.8 engine.
If going for a Carrera though, make sure you get PASM & PSE, they transform the car with the suspension & noise.
There's a really well priced silver Gen II at JZM at the moment. I'd be all over that at the moment if buying.
Good luck with your search, they're both brilliant cars and I doubt you'll regret it.
For me, using the 993 daily was perfectly fine, they're great sports cars, definitely enough fun, however piling on the miles and worry about maintenance / rust on components etc started to take the shine off. As a 'Classic' they're too special for a daily. I ended up getting another car to commute in and kept the 993 as another weekend car.
The 997 is a fab modern sports car, with enough of the old school Porsche in it to make it special and you can definitely see / feel the relation back to the 993. Dash / interior / ride / steering etc are similar for sure, but you get more reliability, more modern tech (PCM is still crap however) but Bluetooth etc are worth having in a daily.
Assume you're after a manual? If so, do not discount the base Carrera (non S) model. Against a friends Carrera S there was hardly anything in it on the road & it's thought the 3.6 spins slightly sweeter than the 3.8 engine.
If going for a Carrera though, make sure you get PASM & PSE, they transform the car with the suspension & noise.
There's a really well priced silver Gen II at JZM at the moment. I'd be all over that at the moment if buying.
Good luck with your search, they're both brilliant cars and I doubt you'll regret it.
I recently went from a 987.2 Cayman S to a 993 C2, my first 911.
While I had my Cayman I stopped dailying it and bought a cheap run around for my short commute and shopping etc to limit unnecessary miles in rubbish traffic where it cant be enjoyed. Same arrangement with my 993, its a road trip, evenings and weekends car only.
I'd say a 997, much like a 987, can easily be your daily and only car. A 993 on the other hand needs a little more care and attention as it ages, and although capable you'd probably regret dailying it.
There are good deals to be found on 993s that are mechanically sound but need a little sprucing up and as they're so mechanically simple you can do lots yourself with a good toolkit and a good search engine.
While I had my Cayman I stopped dailying it and bought a cheap run around for my short commute and shopping etc to limit unnecessary miles in rubbish traffic where it cant be enjoyed. Same arrangement with my 993, its a road trip, evenings and weekends car only.
I'd say a 997, much like a 987, can easily be your daily and only car. A 993 on the other hand needs a little more care and attention as it ages, and although capable you'd probably regret dailying it.
There are good deals to be found on 993s that are mechanically sound but need a little sprucing up and as they're so mechanically simple you can do lots yourself with a good toolkit and a good search engine.
Edited by gwsinc on Wednesday 7th August 11:43
What's your commute like? personally if I had to commute by car I wouldn't use my 993. They can totally handle it from a reliability perspective, BUT:
- manual + reasonably heavy clutch = annoying in traffic
- daily use would normalise how quirky the car feels Vs your typical daily (air cooled noise, weird pedals, hydraulic steering, bobbing nose, oil/leather smell etc). You almost want to drive something else more vanilla on a regular basis to accentuate the quirks
- these cars are perfectly comfortable and enjoyable on long boring trips playing the role of a GT however they really come alive and most memorable as an experience when pushed hard on a twisty A or B road - does your commute offer this opportunity?
- not advised to be running 25 year bodywork through salt-ladden roads daily during the winter. They're enough at risk of rust already despite being galvanised at the factory. Unless you be bothered every day to wash under and sides of car then you will get some rust creeping in, which starts to get v expensive
- manual + reasonably heavy clutch = annoying in traffic
- daily use would normalise how quirky the car feels Vs your typical daily (air cooled noise, weird pedals, hydraulic steering, bobbing nose, oil/leather smell etc). You almost want to drive something else more vanilla on a regular basis to accentuate the quirks
- these cars are perfectly comfortable and enjoyable on long boring trips playing the role of a GT however they really come alive and most memorable as an experience when pushed hard on a twisty A or B road - does your commute offer this opportunity?
- not advised to be running 25 year bodywork through salt-ladden roads daily during the winter. They're enough at risk of rust already despite being galvanised at the factory. Unless you be bothered every day to wash under and sides of car then you will get some rust creeping in, which starts to get v expensive
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