Just seen Hi Def TV
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Oh dear, that was a mistake.... Just did the bank holiday amble into Currys and saw my first HD TV. Talk about a picture!
As my plasma bit the dust I thought I had settled on a new Panasonic courtesy of the insurance. I fear I may be putting a bit more money in the pot than I had first intended. HD is simply awesome. Now all we need is some HD content from the broadcasters :yes:
As my plasma bit the dust I thought I had settled on a new Panasonic courtesy of the insurance. I fear I may be putting a bit more money in the pot than I had first intended. HD is simply awesome. Now all we need is some HD content from the broadcasters :yes:
BlairOut. Didn't you just shell out significant folding on a home cinema system? Is that the plasma that just packed up? Already?
Edited to add: Sorry I was confusing you with this thread from Strebbe64
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=141&h=&t=147710
>> Edited by t1grm on Monday 30th May 15:51
Edited to add: Sorry I was confusing you with this thread from Strebbe64
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=141&h=&t=147710
>> Edited by t1grm on Monday 30th May 15:51
I remember seeing a Japanese broadcaster demo this a few years ago and being absolutly blown out of my mind.
The perfect world demos of these things are always better then the reality, how much so in this case I wonder?
Does the technology require new cameras or has it been the case that things have been filmed high definition for a while and the TV's and broadcasters have been the weakest link?
>> Edited by rpguk on Monday 30th May 16:54
The perfect world demos of these things are always better then the reality, how much so in this case I wonder?
Does the technology require new cameras or has it been the case that things have been filmed high definition for a while and the TV's and broadcasters have been the weakest link?
>> Edited by rpguk on Monday 30th May 16:54
rpguk said:
Does the technology require new cameras or has it been the case that things have been filmed high definition for a while and the TV's and broadcasters have been the weakest link?
Yes, the source material needs to be filmed in HD. A lot of US based drama series (ER, Desperate Housewives etc.) have been filmed in HD for a while now as the US already have cable based HD services. Sky and the BBC are investing in HD and are already filming sporting events, concerts etc. in HD. I think the BBC have said they will have 100% of their output filmed in HD by 2010.
Sky's service which is due to start in 2006 will most likely see HD channels for sport, films and something like Sky one, along with things like Discovery and National Geographic I'd imagine.
BliarOut said:
Oh dear, that was a mistake.... Just did the bank holiday amble into Currys and saw my first HD TV. Talk about a picture!
As my plasma bit the dust I thought I had settled on a new Panasonic courtesy of the insurance. I fear I may be putting a bit more money in the pot than I had first intended. HD is simply awesome. Now all we need is some HD content from the broadcasters
which type of telly was it???
A plasma or a Dlp rear pro???
I have been waiting for high def for years. The yanks are always one step ahead of us with their toys compared to the uk 
I have just finished the ceiling installation in my house of my Sony G90 CRT projector. The projector can accept 2500 x 2000 and with the line quadrupler it should be awesome. I have just ordered a 10m x 7m log cabin for a dedicated home cinema just for high def and now I will have to unistall the damn thing then reinstall it in the cabin
It weighs 110kg's, it took six large guys to hang it on the ceiling, and at the moment you actually sit underneath it when watching a film 
Will be worth it when finished though as the new picture size will be 6 metres wide by 2ish high
High def will do to normal def what ED Beta and Super VHS did to their formers - it will blow them away..
Downside is you will have to replace all your DVD's once you have seen it
I have just finished the ceiling installation in my house of my Sony G90 CRT projector. The projector can accept 2500 x 2000 and with the line quadrupler it should be awesome. I have just ordered a 10m x 7m log cabin for a dedicated home cinema just for high def and now I will have to unistall the damn thing then reinstall it in the cabin
It weighs 110kg's, it took six large guys to hang it on the ceiling, and at the moment you actually sit underneath it when watching a film Will be worth it when finished though as the new picture size will be 6 metres wide by 2ish high
High def will do to normal def what ED Beta and Super VHS did to their formers - it will blow them away..
Downside is you will have to replace all your DVD's once you have seen it
Saw a working system over the other side of the Atlantic 2 weeks ago. 100s' of channels, huge tellys and all the soaps and serials in HD.
Plus their 5-7mb wireless broadband, the whole package comes in at 45 uk credits a month
(about 90 bucks)
>> Edited by mcflurry on Monday 30th May 20:21
Plus their 5-7mb wireless broadband, the whole package comes in at 45 uk credits a month
(about 90 bucks)
>> Edited by mcflurry on Monday 30th May 20:21
t1grm said:
BlairOut. Didn't you just shell out significant folding on a home cinema system? Is that the plasma that just packed up? Already?
Edited to add: Sorry I was confusing you with this thread from Strebbe64
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=141&h=&t=147710
>> Edited by t1grm on Monday 30th May 15:51
Mine got taken out by lightning
It's covered by my insurance
PeterPeter, it was a DLP I saw....
I think I'm going to have to investigate the Panasonic TH42PV500... It's a few quid more, but HD ready.
To the US guys: what's a HD tv look like with a normal picture? All the stuff I've had demo'ed to me looked sh*t, with a very clean PAL signal through a pretty high-end (20k USD) converter.
We just got a couple of HD cameras in the studio's but we can't do any post production in-house as our suites are all low-rez. We also can't get it re-transmitted from our TX rooms as nobody over here in blighty has the ability or capacity to deliver it to the viewer. I've been told it'll be about a year before they can broadcast HD over here, which means two years min in TV speak
Though that may be a good thing - just the idea of HD Crazy Frog sends shivers down my spine!
We just got a couple of HD cameras in the studio's but we can't do any post production in-house as our suites are all low-rez. We also can't get it re-transmitted from our TX rooms as nobody over here in blighty has the ability or capacity to deliver it to the viewer. I've been told it'll be about a year before they can broadcast HD over here, which means two years min in TV speak
Though that may be a good thing - just the idea of HD Crazy Frog sends shivers down my spine!
up-the-dubs said:
Hav'nt seen HD much yet, ballpark, how much do they cost compared to sililar sized non-HD, say for a "42 plasma?
the best plasma thats hd ready i s the pioneer 43xde
the hitachi pd7200is really good value for a hd tv at two grand
the rear pros with dlp arguably have better pq with no screenburn issues the sagem hd 45 and now 56 are awesome
you certainly get more for your money
up-the-dubs said:
Hav'nt seen HD much yet, ballpark, how much do they cost compared to sililar sized non-HD, say for a "42 plasma?
the best plasma thats hd ready i s the pioneer 43xde
the hitachi pd7200is really good value for a hd tv at two grand
the rear pros with dlp arguably have better pq with no screenburn issues the sagem hd 45 and now 56 are awesome
you certainly get more for your money
peterpeter said:
Hav'nt seen HD much yet, ballpark, how much do they cost compared to sililar sized non-HD, say for a "42 plasma?
the best plasma thats hd ready i s the pioneer 43xde
the hitachi pd7200is really good value for a hd tv at two grand
the rear pros with dlp arguably have better pq with no screenburn issues the sagem hd 45 and now 56 are awesome
you certainly get more for your money
buy one, fool
rpguk said:
Does the technology require new cameras or has it been the case that things have been filmed high definition for a while and the TV's and broadcasters have been the weakest link?
Standard television cameras are all PAL, which is 625 lines. The most commonly used format, Digital Betacam, shoots on PAL or NTSC. DVCAM, DV, DVCpro, XDcam, all these shoot PAL 625 lines (or NTSC).
Sony do a HD camera which has been getting used more often (the Bashir Michael Jackson doco was HD), and they've just released 2 prosumer cameras that only cost a few thousand each. The more expensive of the two is awesome, I've had a good play with it and its extremely impressive, only the poor lens optics lets it down.
Some premiership footy matches are shot using HD cameras, although the output is PAL. This will change next year when Sky start broadcasting in HD. I'm not sure if this is 750 or 1080 lines though.
Of course all 16mm and 35mm films are already HD compliant anyway, due to the hi res nature of the format. They'll need to be telesynced to a new HD format though before you see the difference. Shows like Star Trek and The Sopranos are already shot on HD, so that won't be a problem.
Anyone know if the current low end 16:9 projectors of choice (seem to ve the Sanyo PLV-Z3 and the Panasonic PT-AE700) have a HDCP port? Or whether updates are in the pipeline?
I've sort of got my heart set on the Sanyo, but I'd be a fool to get it now if there's one out RSN that'll deal with Sky's upcoming HD stuff.
I've sort of got my heart set on the Sanyo, but I'd be a fool to get it now if there's one out RSN that'll deal with Sky's upcoming HD stuff.
parrot of doom said:
rpguk said:
Does the technology require new cameras or has it been the case that things have been filmed high definition for a while and the TV's and broadcasters have been the weakest link?
Standard television cameras are all PAL, which is 625 lines. The most commonly used format, Digital Betacam, shoots on PAL or NTSC. DVCAM, DV, DVCpro, XDcam, all these shoot PAL 625 lines (or NTSC).
Sony do a HD camera which has been getting used more often (the Bashir Michael Jackson doco was HD), and they've just released 2 prosumer cameras that only cost a few thousand each. The more expensive of the two is awesome, I've had a good play with it and its extremely impressive, only the poor lens optics lets it down.
Some premiership footy matches are shot using HD cameras, although the output is PAL. This will change next year when Sky start broadcasting in HD. I'm not sure if this is 750 or 1080 lines though.
Of course all 16mm and 35mm films are already HD compliant anyway, due to the hi res nature of the format. They'll need to be telesynced to a new HD format though before you see the difference. Shows like Star Trek and The Sopranos are already shot on HD, so that won't be a problem.
I have the Sony HDR-FX1 1080i camera. Awesome. The only bad thing is, in order to view HD on the telly I have to hook the camera up direct (or invest in Sony's HD tape player - no thanks). I can't wait for them to sort blue-ray/HD-DVD so that I can start editing videos in HD. (I can edit them now because I use Premier Pro with the plug-in - just can't burn the DVDs due to HD spec not supported).
Oh - and normal TV on HDTV system=not up to par. Don't get me wrong, it still looks good, but doesn't compare with HDTV.
A neat thing about my Sony receiver that I use for my system is it actually upconverts S-Video input to higher definition component video progressive scan. Does a good job as well.
I guess you can say that all of us that live on this side of the pond are just visual junkies...
ErnestM
>> Edited by ErnestM on Tuesday 31st May 02:35
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