Speed (Safety) Camera Vans
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Brettaboy

Original Poster:

18 posts

137 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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This has puzzled me for a while.

Here in Lincolnshire, these vans have dark tinted windows front and back. So, do the cameras work through the glass or do the windows have to be open whilst they are active?

Paul Dishman

5,403 posts

266 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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I didn’t think they worked through glass

Escort3500

13,477 posts

174 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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The fascists operating the plethora of camera vans in North Yorkshire have tinted windows that are always open when the camera is operational.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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Pretty sure it's just to stop nosey people looking in and keeping the inside cool from the sun. If they were up and the cameras tried to be used, I hazard a guess it would be more difficult to see reg numbers and who was the driver especially when it's dusk time.

martinbiz

3,699 posts

174 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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flashbang said:
Pretty sure it's just to stop nosey people looking in and keeping the inside cool from the sun. If they were up and the cameras tried to be used, I hazard a guess it would be more difficult to see reg numbers and who was the driver especially when it's dusk time.
Not approved for use through glass full stop tinted or otherwise

HantsRat

2,409 posts

137 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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They do work through glass (I've tested it) Operating guidance however states the window should be down/open. It isn't however unlawful to use a laser through glass.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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HantsRat said:
They do work through glass (I've tested it) Operating guidance however states the window should be down/open. It isn't however unlawful to use a laser through glass.
Interesting. So looking at what Martin biz said, what would happen if you were caught if the operator had the window closed but the machine wasn't type approved for using through tinted glass?

Mort7

1,489 posts

137 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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Pretty sure I've seen them operating through tinted glass around our way. When you get close enough, and have a bit of backlighting from the windscreen, you can make out the operator looking through the back of the camera.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

137 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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flashbang said:
Interesting. So looking at what Martin biz said, what would happen if you were caught if the operator had the window closed but the machine wasn't type approved for using through tinted glass?
It's nothing to do with type approval it's just guidance that states they shouldn't be used through glass. To your other question, I guess it would be down to the magistrate.

agtlaw

7,403 posts

235 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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Magistrates.

R0G

5,035 posts

184 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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WHY does it matter ?

Stick to the speed limits and it make the question irrelevant

speedking31

3,914 posts

165 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Because rules is rules. (For both sides in the war on the motorist.)

Brettaboy

Original Poster:

18 posts

137 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Interesting responses - thanks to all.

A mate contacted Lincs. Road Safety Partnership who told him that they operate an open window policy. I wonder..........

RTB

8,273 posts

287 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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I've only ever seen them operating on glorious sunny days, so I can't imagine they'd ever find themselves in a situation where they'd need to close the window.

Paul Dishman

5,403 posts

266 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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KM said:
Finally! Someone who agrees and doesn’t start an argument as to why speeding is ok and if I don’t agree, I shouldn’t be on here
You shouldn’t be on here

PorkInsider

6,589 posts

170 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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KM said:
their car is doing 40 in a 30 however if they’d been going slower could of perhaps stopped or at least caused less injuries.
Why is 30 ok?

Why not reduce the limit to 20? Or 10?

The child would almost certainly be ok if hit at 10mph (or 13mph if the absolute raving maniac you describe as being the driver is 30% over.)

Paul Dishman

5,403 posts

266 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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KM said:
Maybe this forum isn’t for me however it’s not exactly your place to decide that. But if it’s full of people like you then you’re probably correct
I am

Dave Hedgehog

16,335 posts

233 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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KM said:
So for arguments sake, you have a child who is daft enough to step out into the road chasing a ball or something of that nature. A typical boy racer or stubborn old man in their car is doing 40 in a 30 however if they’d been going slower could of perhaps stopped or at least caused less injuries. How would you feel if you lost that child due to someone else’s pathetic love of speed?

I completely understand you like to go fast, just stop trying to make it seem like I’m the one in the wrong for not.

Maybe this forum isn’t for me however it’s not exactly your place to decide that. But if it’s full of people like you then you’re probably correct
or drive faster and pass by the child before they stepped into the road

RSTurboPaul

13,090 posts

287 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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KM said:
PorkInsider said:
KM said:
their car is doing 40 in a 30 however if they’d been going slower could of perhaps stopped or at least caused less injuries.
Why is 30 ok?

Why not reduce the limit to 20? Or 10?

The child would almost certainly be ok if hit at 10mph (or 13mph if the absolute raving maniac you describe as being the driver is 30% over.)
I don’t think we need to be having a 20 limit, 30 is probably just fine
What if you ran someone over at 30mph? Would that be ok?

mygoldfishbowl

4,285 posts

172 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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KM said:
So for arguments sake, you have a child who is daft enough to step out into the road chasing a ball or something of that nature. A typical boy racer or stubborn old man in their car is doing 40 in a 30 however if they’d been going slower could of perhaps stopped or at least caused less injuries. How would you feel if you lost that child due to someone else’s pathetic love of speed?

I completely understand you like to go fast, just stop trying to make it seem like I’m the one in the wrong for not.

Maybe this forum isn’t for me however it’s not exactly your place to decide that. But if it’s full of people like you then you’re probably correct
Bit sexist.