Triumph Daytona Moto2

[Maruchino]

Can't see a thread on this.... thoughts?

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2019/08/23/2020-t...

Bit underwhelming and not much of a departure from the tried and trusted 675 platform from appearances. I'm sure it's a healthy upgrade, but doesn't set the pulse racing like I thought it might.

[Zarco]

There has been a thread. I like it but agree it looks too similar.

I'm hoping Triumph are using this to test the water before throwing more money at a new model. Wishful thinking perhaps!

[moanthebairns]

I mean I like it I do but it's pretty much the same as the last 675, whilst not as nice as the original 675.

I'd buy one but not for £16k. God no.

[Ho Lee Kau]

It was to be expected.
The last Daytona was not cheap either!

The 765 Daytona is wonderful.
I love the silver swingarm and frame.
All that CF is not cheap.
Beautiful piece of kit.

[Ho Lee Kau]

moanthebairns said:

I mean I like it I do but it's pretty much the same as the last 675, whilst not as nice as the original 675.

I'd buy one but not for £16k. God no.

Yep, it has two wheels with Pirelli Supercorsa SP, it is pretty much the same as previous version.

On, no, it probably has V3 not V2, ste, even tires are not the same....

[moanthebairns]

Ho Lee Kau said:

moanthebairns said:

I mean I like it I do but it's pretty much the same as the last 675, whilst not as nice as the original 675.

I'd buy one but not for £16k. God no.

Yep, it has two wheels with Pirelli Supercorsa SP, it is pretty much the same as previous version.

On, no, it probably has V3 not V2, ste, even tires are not the same....

I did mean look wise.

i'm sorry but for that kinda money, where is the carbon wheels, adjustable arrow rear sets, the hose mounted preload adjuster on the rear shock, a decent steering damper. All stuff that was readily available for the original 675.

I don't think anyone on forum likes a 675 more than me, I've two but this is 16k for a street triple r with a carbon fibre fairing on it.

Edited by moanthebairns on Saturday 24th August 08:28

[moto_traxport]

moanthebairns said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

moanthebairns said:

I mean I like it I do but it's pretty much the same as the last 675, whilst not as nice as the original 675.

I'd buy one but not for £16k. God no.

Yep, it has two wheels with Pirelli Supercorsa SP, it is pretty much the same as previous version.

On, no, it probably has V3 not V2, ste, even tires are not the same....

I did mean look wise.

i'm sorry but for that kinda money, where is the carbon wheels, adjustable arrow rear sets, the hose mounted preload adjuster on the rear shock, a decent steering damper. All stuff that was readily available for the original 675.

I don't think anyone on forum likes a 675 more than me, I've two but this is 16k for a street triple r with a carbon fibre fairing on it.

Edited by moanthebairns on Saturday 24th August 08:28

Agreed. Welcome back to sportsbikes Triumph but the styling breaks no new ground.

Seat unit still looks too skinny, pointy & high - following someone on the last model or latest Street models and they look like they’re on a 125. Quite like the long exhaust as I’m no fan of those comedy tiny things that exit at 45’ from under the footpeg. That front mudguard reflector wotsit with nut & bolt straight through the middle of it looks like the afterthought it clearly was.

[Ho Lee Kau]

I think it is fairly priced for what it is.
How much was the 675R back then?

Maybe the frame and swingarm on the 765 are from 675, I don’t know. But the 675 chassis was already wonderful. Now it is in a beautiful polished finish.
765 engine has been modified.
All the electronics are there.
Proper Öhlins.
Stylema with adjustable MC.
Loads of carbon fiber. I bet it weighs 180kg wet.

I guess a lot of parts come from older Daytona and from Street Triple RS but time and money have been spent on this bike.

I dig the Union Jack whatever paint on it even.

I would LOVE to have this Daytona, just can’t afford it now. Would take it over anything, actually, the output is more than enough for me anyway.
I have the 2014 standard D675 and I keep it for now.

Looks, yes, the underseat exhaust version is beautiful, I especially like black with golden wheels. Maybe it looks better than the later model, I can’t decide, I like the looks of mine as well.

Damn I like Triumph, they just do everything right.

[anonymous-user]

I like it, but far too many 1000 bikes out there which will blitz in 99% of the time. Track day heroes and racers can build something for less.

For me, Triumph need to make a full on 140-150HP Moto2 bike and charge accordingly.

[sjj84]

It's only about 10 bhp down on the moto 2 bike isn't it? Plus it's euro 4 compliant, surely wouldn't take a lot of effort to get the power equal? With such limited numbers and the moto 2 connection, surely it'll be a bike collectors dream.

[Ho Lee Kau]

sjj84 said:

It's only about 10 bhp down on the moto 2 bike isn't it? Plus it's euro 4 compliant, surely wouldn't take a lot of effort to get the power equal? With such limited numbers and the moto 2 connection, surely it'll be a bike collectors dream.

They will sell all 765x2 in no time, I am sure.

Currently it is only 2bhp over previous Daytona 675.
Importantly, the new Daytona has 20% more torque everywhere on the curve, 80nm total.

Exhaust is huge, take it off and you get your Moto2 power.

[MrGman]

Ho Lee Kau said:

They will sell all 765x2 in no time, I am sure.

Currently it is only 2bhp over previous Daytona 675.
Importantly, the new Daytona has 20% more torque everywhere on the curve, 80nm total.

Exhaust is huge, take it off and you get your Moto2 power.

I reckon if you put the 675r and the 765 daytona on a rolling road there would be a lot more than 2hp in it.

[Fire99]

I'm going to don the flameproof suit here and say I agree with those that are a bit underwhelmed.
Technically, it has some clever tech but for me the simple fact is at that price point, based purely on ability, you may as well save yourself 2 grand + and buy a new GSXR1000.

So if it's not purely on ability, it's selling itself for being 'special'. And for me it's too visually bland. It may be special but it doesn't look particularly special. Initial impressions were much flatter than I expected them to be, coming from a Triumph fan..

[Ho Lee Kau]

Fire99 said:

I'm going to don the flameproof suit here and say I agree with those that are a bit underwhelmed.
Technically, it has some clever tech but for me the simple fact is at that price point, based purely on ability, you may as well save yourself 2 grand + and buy a new GSXR1000.

So if it's not purely on ability, it's selling itself for being 'special'. And for me it's too visually bland. It may be special but it doesn't look particularly special. Initial impressions were much flatter than I expected them to be, coming from a Triumph fan..

I have GSXR1000R.
It needs some after-purchase work, like brakes (Daytona has Stylema and adjustable MC), throttle response ( Speed and Street RS have very smooth on/off throttle response). If you want to GSXR1000R look better you will need to buy a better looking exhaust can. All this is extra outlay.

I would say then get S1000RR M-Paket. It probably is a bit more expensive than D765, but it has really everything, including cf wheels and lean-sensitive ABS.

Daytona has the cf body panels, which must be quite expensive. Getting similar on a S1000RR will be a grand extra at least.

I still think D765 is fairly priced, but I am a fan of Triumph and Daytona, so maybe a bit partial. :-)

[Fire99]

Ho Lee Kau said:

I am a fan of Triumph and Daytona, so maybe a bit partial. :-)

The interesting thing is that I am too but I'm still a bit underwhelmed by this bike

I think I was thinking of it looking more 'special' along the lines of the Norton Superlight. Yes the Norton is another 5 grand but that is 100% hand made etc.. In fact if this Moto2 homage looked more like a Moto2, it would be a big step forward. This looks too compromised for a limited edition premium product.

[Ho Lee Kau]

Fire99 said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

I am a fan of Triumph and Daytona, so maybe a bit partial. :-)

The interesting thing is that I am too but I'm still a bit underwhelmed by this bike

I think I was thinking of it looking more 'special' along the lines of the Norton Superlight. Yes the Norton is another 5 grand but that is 100% hand made etc.. In fact if this Moto2 homage looked more like a Moto2, it would be a big step forward. This looks too compromised for a limited edition premium product.

I will not argue.
I did not want to justify the 675R back then, it seemed very expensive to me, at least as a 600cc sportsbike for my purely street use, I bought standard D675 on discount in Germany.

I think D675R was already quite expensive.
D765R is limited edition and has more parts on it, plus updated 765 engine with more power and torque than ever.
I am not underwhelmed, I am out of means.

[anonymous-user]

But why did they make it so ugly? I never liked the old styling, this one is just lazy?

[Ho Lee Kau]

yonex said:

But why did they make it so ugly? I never liked the old styling, this one is just lazy?

It’s not ugly.

[anonymous-user]

Specsavers?

[Ho Lee Kau]

Are you trying to tell me KTM looks “better” or something?
I can see fine without glasses, I take Daytona, thank you.