718 with 18” wheels?
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I’ve just put a deposit down on a new 718 which I’m crazy excited about. I’ve given Porsche my spec but can’t can’t make a decision on the wheels and whether to upgrade the standard 18” rims that come with the 718. My intention was to leave them as they are and use the extra cash for other upgrades. Then yesterday at the dealership I had a test drive of a 718 with 20” rims and loved how they looked. When I asked about seeing any Porsche they had with the 18s the sales guy said they didn’t have any in and that no one ever picks them so they don’t have any to display. That really put me off having them as if I can’t see them in the flesh I’m worried I’ll get the car on delivery day and look down at them and be gutted I made the wrong decision.
Now I’m wondering if anyone does buy the 718 with 18’s at all?
Has anyone on the forum had a look at them or use them? Any feedback? Should I just take the plunge and upgrade?
Cheers
Now I’m wondering if anyone does buy the 718 with 18’s at all?
Has anyone on the forum had a look at them or use them? Any feedback? Should I just take the plunge and upgrade?
Cheers
I have 18” winter wheels for my cayman s.
They are extremely functional - fantastic grip in the cold and wet weather as well as the comfort that you have extra tyre sidewall protection from potholes damaging the rim.
I don’t like the way they look but there would be no way I would want to run 20” wheels over the winter months.
My local Porsche dealer has a cayman for sale with standard 18”s so they are around.
They are extremely functional - fantastic grip in the cold and wet weather as well as the comfort that you have extra tyre sidewall protection from potholes damaging the rim.
I don’t like the way they look but there would be no way I would want to run 20” wheels over the winter months.
My local Porsche dealer has a cayman for sale with standard 18”s so they are around.
All depends if you want to fit Michelin PS4S tyres in my view as so far I’ve only found n rated ones to fit 20”s.
Otherwise 18”s are great and fairly impossible to damage unlike larger sizes. I do like the way the 19” / 20” wheels look though, but they do come at a fair extra cost.
Ride on 20”s without PASM is fine imo.
Some do buy 18”s, see: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=17...
Otherwise 18”s are great and fairly impossible to damage unlike larger sizes. I do like the way the 19” / 20” wheels look though, but they do come at a fair extra cost.
Ride on 20”s without PASM is fine imo.
Some do buy 18”s, see: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=17...
Edited by jimbo761 on Monday 26th August 12:42
I’ve just ordered a new 718 with the standard wheels. Extended test drive in 718 T and 718 S - both had 20s and Sports PASM (-20mm tide height). Ride was fine, but ... mine is a daily with lots of knackered and potholed B roads etc. Porsche said their wheel insurance wold not cover cost of a full wheel if bent, so by opting for 18s I reduce the risk and tyre are much cheaper to replace. Besides in side the car I can’t see the wheels.
I did order PASM (-10 mm) because otherwise the ride looks too high - especially on 20s. Also 20s make the 2.0 brakes etc look lost in the wheel.
Just my opinion.
I did order PASM (-10 mm) because otherwise the ride looks too high - especially on 20s. Also 20s make the 2.0 brakes etc look lost in the wheel.
Just my opinion.
RNW said:
I’ve given Porsche my spec but can’t can’t make a decision on the wheels and whether to upgrade the standard 18” rims that come with the 718. My intention was to leave them as they are and use the extra cash for other upgrades.
By the time you've got jiggy with the options list you might as well buy an "S" instead.Price difference is £9,000 and it looks as though 20" wheels would cost you nearly £2,000 on their own. Big bucks for an inch of tyre. (Yes, one inch on each side = 2" overall.)
My own thoughts would be to focus on the basic car (either base or S) and only add such options as you really need. Those Porsche salesmen are expert at flogging all manner of expensive additional toys.... I can't believe how much money some people spend in the options list.
If you’re financing on a PCP you pay for all specified options (with the exception of PDK) over the term of the agreement. On a typical Porsche agreement over 36 months that £2000 upgrade to 20inch wheels on a base car will cost you £60 every month (it’s ~£30 per month for every £1K of options). For me there are other things to option for the money.
Xfe said:
18s provide a bit more comfort. The upgrades are also quite expensive. However they do look better. It's going to be a personal choice.
Are you going for PASM? 20s with PASM aren't too bad comfort-wise.
Hi.Are you going for PASM? 20s with PASM aren't too bad comfort-wise.
No PASM in my spec. I had it originally but the sales guy said he didn't think I should go for it. Especially as I was looking at the 18's so I took it off and saved myself 1k.
jimbo761 said:
All depends if you want to fit Michelin PS4S tyres in my view as so far I’ve only found n rated ones to fit 20”s.
Otherwise 18”s are great and fairly impossible to damage unlike larger sizes. I do like the way the 19” / 20” wheels look though, but they do come at a fair extra cost.
Ride on 20”s without PASM is fine imo.
Some do buy 18”s, see: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=17...
Awesome. Those pics really help. It's hard to get a proper feel for them using the pics on the configurator so seeing them "in the wild" is great.Otherwise 18”s are great and fairly impossible to damage unlike larger sizes. I do like the way the 19” / 20” wheels look though, but they do come at a fair extra cost.
Ride on 20”s without PASM is fine imo.
Some do buy 18”s, see: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=17...
Edited by jimbo761 on Monday 26th August 12:42
Do you know what colour that 718 is in the Scotland pics by the way? It doesn't look like any on the current configurator for the 718.
Thanks for the responses all and sorry for how long it's taken for me to come back. The forum wouldn't let me post anything yesterday (or this morning) as I'm a new user and apparently there had been some posts (not from me) that meant new users couldn't post!
What the hell gets posted on here that means newbies are banned in the beginning?
What the hell gets posted on here that means newbies are banned in the beginning?
RNW said:
Awesome. Those pics really help. It's hard to get a proper feel for them using the pics on the configurator so seeing them "in the wild" is great.
Do you know what colour that 718 is in the Scotland pics by the way? It doesn't look like any on the current configurator for the 718.
It's Sapphire blue which was discontinued this year. It may well return. There is a metallic blue on the configurator but it isn't as nice as Sapphire.Do you know what colour that 718 is in the Scotland pics by the way? It doesn't look like any on the current configurator for the 718.
Personally, I would get the 19's Boxster S wheels as a minimum. I am not a fan of the standard 18's. I've seen a couple of 718's with them and they usually look like a basic spec'd car. Nowt wrong with that, if you're sticking within a budget but for me, wheels make or break the looks of a car. I have the Carrera Sport in black which I think was 3100 GBP, which thinking about it, is f
king ridiculous but they look smart (to me!).Edited by Blink982 on Tuesday 27th August 12:58
If I had my time again, I think I’d opt for 18, but dress the wheels in winter rubber. Then spec some reputable 20s on Michelin PS4 for the summer months. Some of the machines (there is some really naff stuff) on the 718 global Facebook group look awesome.
That said 19s with sport pasm look good too. The wheels sit nicely in the arches. But that may take you back up to 20s budget with no
Pasm.
Just some other options to consider
That said 19s with sport pasm look good too. The wheels sit nicely in the arches. But that may take you back up to 20s budget with no
Pasm.
Just some other options to consider
I've got 20, 19 and 18 wheels for my 981 with passive dampers. 20 summer tyres, 19 winter and summer and the 18 are winter only. Obviously they look better with bigger wheels but they drive very differently with 20 compared to 19. The difference between 19 and 18 is much less obvious.
I'm glad a few others have commented about winter tyres and it's not just me banging that drum any more. I made the mistake last winter of waiting to make the switch and got caught out on a particularly wet stretch of motorway. Lesson learnt.
I'm not sure if you've had Porsches before so don't want to go on like a bore but they're very sensitive to tyres. If price is a concern then stick with the simple 18s. The car will still produce way more cornering force than your brain can comprehend even wearing the cheaper 18 option unless you're an idiot or the next Lewis Hamilton. The 18, 19 and 20 tyres are all the same width - 235 front and 265 rear. That is a lot of tyre for a little car.
If you worry more about looks then go for the 20. Tyre prices are only slightly more expensive as you go up in inches unless you're talking winter tyres which are eye wateringly expensive in 20. I'm deliberately avoiding the n rated tyre topic here as you'll be buying new so have no choice there due to their warranty rules.
The massive tyre walls on the 18 mean you can lend the car to your mum and not worry about curb scrapes. Obviously 19 less so and 20 you can do the maths.
I'm glad a few others have commented about winter tyres and it's not just me banging that drum any more. I made the mistake last winter of waiting to make the switch and got caught out on a particularly wet stretch of motorway. Lesson learnt.
I'm not sure if you've had Porsches before so don't want to go on like a bore but they're very sensitive to tyres. If price is a concern then stick with the simple 18s. The car will still produce way more cornering force than your brain can comprehend even wearing the cheaper 18 option unless you're an idiot or the next Lewis Hamilton. The 18, 19 and 20 tyres are all the same width - 235 front and 265 rear. That is a lot of tyre for a little car.
If you worry more about looks then go for the 20. Tyre prices are only slightly more expensive as you go up in inches unless you're talking winter tyres which are eye wateringly expensive in 20. I'm deliberately avoiding the n rated tyre topic here as you'll be buying new so have no choice there due to their warranty rules.
The massive tyre walls on the 18 mean you can lend the car to your mum and not worry about curb scrapes. Obviously 19 less so and 20 you can do the maths.
Ollie1977 said:
If I had my time again, I think I’d opt for 18, but dress the wheels in winter rubber. Then spec some reputable 20s on Michelin PS4 for the summer months. Some of the machines (there is some really naff stuff) on the 718 global Facebook group look awesome.
That said 19s with sport pasm look good too. The wheels sit nicely in the arches. But that may take you back up to 20s budget with no
Pasm.
Just some other options to consider
Thanks for the recommendation on the 718 Global facebook group. Joined yesterday and there's some great stuff on there. I'm thinking that I get the 18's seeing as I should collect the car Oct\Nov and then come summer next year look at getting summer wheels.That said 19s with sport pasm look good too. The wheels sit nicely in the arches. But that may take you back up to 20s budget with no
Pasm.
Just some other options to consider
I'm getting the car on PCP through Porsche finance. I've not yet seen the official finance agreement (OPC in Wilmslow seems to have gone quiet since I handed over the deposit - sale done I'm not bothered with you anymore style) but I guess I'd be limited to Porsche only rims and couldn't go for any none OEM without invalidating the warranty?
ATM said:
I've got 20, 19 and 18 wheels for my 981 with passive dampers. 20 summer tyres, 19 winter and summer and the 18 are winter only. Obviously they look better with bigger wheels but they drive very differently with 20 compared to 19. The difference between 19 and 18 is much less obvious.
I'm glad a few others have commented about winter tyres and it's not just me banging that drum any more. I made the mistake last winter of waiting to make the switch and got caught out on a particularly wet stretch of motorway. Lesson learnt.
I'm not sure if you've had Porsches before so don't want to go on like a bore but they're very sensitive to tyres. If price is a concern then stick with the simple 18s. The car will still produce way more cornering force than your brain can comprehend even wearing the cheaper 18 option unless you're an idiot or the next Lewis Hamilton. The 18, 19 and 20 tyres are all the same width - 235 front and 265 rear. That is a lot of tyre for a little car.]
I read your Aquaplaning thread and it did make me think.This will be my first Porsche and first rear wheel drive car so I am conscious I'll need to get to grips with this and adjust my driving style. Lewis Hamilton I'm not but lets face it I'll be driving a new Porsche and the temptation will always be there. I've always been pretty cautious when driving in the wet so I'm not likely to do anything crazy but I'm glad for the advice. I'm glad a few others have commented about winter tyres and it's not just me banging that drum any more. I made the mistake last winter of waiting to make the switch and got caught out on a particularly wet stretch of motorway. Lesson learnt.
I'm not sure if you've had Porsches before so don't want to go on like a bore but they're very sensitive to tyres. If price is a concern then stick with the simple 18s. The car will still produce way more cornering force than your brain can comprehend even wearing the cheaper 18 option unless you're an idiot or the next Lewis Hamilton. The 18, 19 and 20 tyres are all the same width - 235 front and 265 rear. That is a lot of tyre for a little car.]
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