Attacked by security guard..police closed the case
Discussion
I doubt this will get to 125 pages like the other thread, but I saw this story and thought of Milkround:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7394687/S...
It seems the shoe was on the other foot compared to Milkround's situation. But despite footage, no prosecution for either assault or false imprisonment will be forthcoming.
The guard has instead accepted an adult restorative disposal order, and that's the end of it.
Basically the guard was told to scrawl an apology, and it's case closed.
Points for me are:
-wasn't the ard the sort of thing Milkround was initially offered? This guard has grabbed it with both hands knowing his behaviour had got him in the poop
- how much grey area there is around use of force in these situations.
I guess the 19yo must have been quite cheeky initially, and "triggered" the security guard in ways those with authority and power don't often like.
Ian
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7394687/S...
It seems the shoe was on the other foot compared to Milkround's situation. But despite footage, no prosecution for either assault or false imprisonment will be forthcoming.
The guard has instead accepted an adult restorative disposal order, and that's the end of it.
Basically the guard was told to scrawl an apology, and it's case closed.
Points for me are:
-wasn't the ard the sort of thing Milkround was initially offered? This guard has grabbed it with both hands knowing his behaviour had got him in the poop
- how much grey area there is around use of force in these situations.
I guess the 19yo must have been quite cheeky initially, and "triggered" the security guard in ways those with authority and power don't often like.
Ian
There has been a lot of problems with so called security guards over the years in particular with door staff many who where ex convicts who had done time in prison.
There has been some improvements in the last 20yrs or so but there are still problems the industry appears to attract a certain type of person.
A problem that the government have not solved is this legal right that security guards have not to reveal their identity. They are even entitled to remove their ID badge to hide their identity. It's so they are protected from retrebution according to the authorities. For me it makes them even more likely to do silly things knowing they don't have to ID themselves.
Increase the rates of pay and attract a different type of person.
More companies are using women now.
There has been some improvements in the last 20yrs or so but there are still problems the industry appears to attract a certain type of person.
A problem that the government have not solved is this legal right that security guards have not to reveal their identity. They are even entitled to remove their ID badge to hide their identity. It's so they are protected from retrebution according to the authorities. For me it makes them even more likely to do silly things knowing they don't have to ID themselves.
Increase the rates of pay and attract a different type of person.
More companies are using women now.
kestral said:
There has been a lot of problems with so called security guards over the years in particular with door staff many who where ex convicts who had done time in prison.
There has been some improvements in the last 20yrs or so but there are still problems the industry appears to attract a certain type of person.
A problem that the government have not solved is this legal right that security guards have not to reveal their identity. They are even entitled to remove their ID badge to hide their identity. It's so they are protected from retrebution according to the authorities. For me it makes them even more likely to do silly things knowing they don't have to ID themselves.
Increase the rates of pay and attract a different type of person.
More companies are using women now.
One of my kids works parttime in Asda (as did I nearly 30 years ago). You'd be surprised how arrogant "council"-types are and how well-versed some of them seem to be in knowing what Security will and won't do. At my daughter's store people will occasionally push a fully loaded trolley out through the doors, load it into the car and drive off without paying. It's not worth the Guard attempting to physically stop them because one day of sick pay usually outweighs the cost of the stolen goods.There has been some improvements in the last 20yrs or so but there are still problems the industry appears to attract a certain type of person.
A problem that the government have not solved is this legal right that security guards have not to reveal their identity. They are even entitled to remove their ID badge to hide their identity. It's so they are protected from retrebution according to the authorities. For me it makes them even more likely to do silly things knowing they don't have to ID themselves.
Increase the rates of pay and attract a different type of person.
More companies are using women now.
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