VW warranty battery? And replacement golf 7R
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Hi guys, battery on my 7R has been playing up recently, get the low voltage warning come up, seem to happen after washing the car when it’s unlocked for some time? Either way i figure it’s pretty much toast or soon to be toast...
My question is... (silly question I know) is the battery covered under warranty? I only bought the car back in June as an approved used car from VW, the car is a 16 plate and only turned 3 years old about the same time I bought the car, I know in most cases batteries are t covered under any warranty but due to the age of the car do you think I will be covered? A quick online search shows batteries within 3 years are covered, I’ve only just past 3 years 2 months ago, you think I should be okay? Car also has a years warranty on it.
Also what is the story with replacing battery’s on the golf 7R, apparently it’s not as simple as taking the old one out and replacing with a new one? Does it need some sort of coding by dealer?
Many thanks
My question is... (silly question I know) is the battery covered under warranty? I only bought the car back in June as an approved used car from VW, the car is a 16 plate and only turned 3 years old about the same time I bought the car, I know in most cases batteries are t covered under any warranty but due to the age of the car do you think I will be covered? A quick online search shows batteries within 3 years are covered, I’ve only just past 3 years 2 months ago, you think I should be okay? Car also has a years warranty on it.
Also what is the story with replacing battery’s on the golf 7R, apparently it’s not as simple as taking the old one out and replacing with a new one? Does it need some sort of coding by dealer?
Many thanks
Battery swap is simple. May need "coding" it sounds more complex tsounds.is ****
Check your warranty paperwork.
I suspect it's not included but won't hurt to ask and the dealer may be kind on you.
If you have to pay, don't get a VW one, get a good one from Bosch or Varta , will usually be less if you buy online and comes with usually a 5 yr warranty and higher capacity and cca.
Check your warranty paperwork.
I suspect it's not included but won't hurt to ask and the dealer may be kind on you.
If you have to pay, don't get a VW one, get a good one from Bosch or Varta , will usually be less if you buy online and comes with usually a 5 yr warranty and higher capacity and cca.
Edited by xjay1337 on Monday 26th August 22:28
Complex? Please elaborate. I’ll have a word with dealer tomorrow was meaning to today but the bank hol delayed it. Just out of curiosity what does a dealer charge for replacement? Quick check on ECP and it seems the batteries are 300 quid, wtf?!? Using discount code reduces the price to half which is a lot more reasonable, I’d much rather get a Bosch as you said, but not sure what needs to be done....
t one is only advice I'll say.Cheers for replies guys, sorry for stupid question what’s agm stand for? I’m seeing Bosch agm and exide agm , but clueless as to what agm is? There coming in at 300 quid like I said, 150/160 mark minus the discount, if I buy this can I simply switch it out for the old and replace as you would traditionally change a battery or have got to F about with other stuff, not even had a look at the battery properly tbh lol it’s got that silly cloth cover on it and have t got round to looking at what’s actually attached on the terminals.
Cheers
Cheers
Makes sense, any recommendations for a decent, cheapish obd that can do this? Heard good things about obd eleven but unfortunately I don’t use any Samsung devices only iphone/iPad so wouldn’t work right, or am I mistaken??
Update contacted some local dealers today including the dealer I bought I vehicle from who are an hour or so away. 1 Local dealer said they can do and booked me in (diagnostic £60 covered etc) 2nd dealer seems to think that due to nature of work ie battery related it’s considered wear and tear therefore I have to pay £60 diagnostic fee and if found to be battery it wouldn’t be covered anyway! Dealer I bought vehicle from, after explaining to the dozy bird on the phone an her having a word with service- we came to the conclusion that sales will need to contact me and approve work, cover costs if need be and authorise a Local dealer to carry out work but I’d have to pay the £60 diagnostic?
Seems like a lot of F’ing about.... I’d much rather just buy a heavy duty battery and Chuck it in myself and be done with it for the next 4/5 years.
Update contacted some local dealers today including the dealer I bought I vehicle from who are an hour or so away. 1 Local dealer said they can do and booked me in (diagnostic £60 covered etc) 2nd dealer seems to think that due to nature of work ie battery related it’s considered wear and tear therefore I have to pay £60 diagnostic fee and if found to be battery it wouldn’t be covered anyway! Dealer I bought vehicle from, after explaining to the dozy bird on the phone an her having a word with service- we came to the conclusion that sales will need to contact me and approve work, cover costs if need be and authorise a Local dealer to carry out work but I’d have to pay the £60 diagnostic?
Seems like a lot of F’ing about.... I’d much rather just buy a heavy duty battery and Chuck it in myself and be done with it for the next 4/5 years.
AGM = Absorbent Glass Mat, it's a kind of battery required for vehicles with stop/start and can handle more starry cycles than other types of battery.
OBD Eleven is fantastic and the Pro for about £50/60 will do a great job for battery coding and many other coding/adaptation changes but you will need an android device for it. Vcds is the only other real alternative as far as I'm aware but at a much higher cost.
OBD Eleven is fantastic and the Pro for about £50/60 will do a great job for battery coding and many other coding/adaptation changes but you will need an android device for it. Vcds is the only other real alternative as far as I'm aware but at a much higher cost.
I've just replaced the battery on my 2016 Golf R, just out of warranty, 19,000 miles. Battery Status on the MFD was showing as zero or close to for some time and the start-stop hadn't worked for months, screen saying "power consumption too high". Several garages and Halfords tested it and said it was fine but it clearly wasn't as several electrical gremlins started to creep in such as parking assist error, ACC error. I bit the bullet and replaced it with an 096 AGM from Halfords at £180 fitted or thereabouts. It took them quite a while to code it correctly as the car comes with an EFB as standard and their diagnostic tool wouldn't recognise the AGM
That’s for input guys, makes sense what type of battery it is now- thanks! As mentioned, After a quick search online I also see comments about a battery recall on some models, can’t find anything for the R though! Also searched the cars recall history online and it seems nothing’s outstanding! Mine is also a 2016 model (16 plate) so very possible it shares the same battery as your car.
Is there not any iPhone compatible OBD? I’ve been looking on eBay for a cheapish Samsung smart phone, but even if I did find a decent one I’d still need to pay £50 odd quid for the obd eleven. Is Carly any good? Could Carly code the battery?
My car was behaving like yours too a lot of features getting disabled etc, I’ve actually got a £150 quid Halfords voucher funnily enough and I’m deciding between a next base dash cam or a Karcher washer lol maybe I should should just buy a proper battery from Halfords, did Halfords manage to code it all for you too? £180 does seem abit steep mind. Like you said, I’m worried that the battery will have good voltage across it, and they will come back and say everything’s tickity boom, where as it’s obvious the battery is on it way out, and the alternators clearly working fine as after starting the car it holds it charge if driven regularly.
I’ve managed to get the car booked it for tomorrow at my local dealer, and just about managed to get the dealer I bought the car from to agree to cover costs should it be a faulty or knackered battery- he kept beating around the bush and couldn’t give me a straight answer as to whether it’s covered or not, kept saying he needs to see diagnostic report bla bla bla, eventually got him to agree- great! Funny thing is the spanner seems to think that if a cars left alone for a few days and not started it’s not abnormal for the battery to go low/ flat- yeah okay lol left cars for 2 weeks or more in the past and much older vehicle and it turns over first time every time. Hopefully it does turn out to be the battery and it’s all sorted- hate leaving my car overnight at garages grrr, specifically told them not to wash it as I’ve just had her 4 stage machine polished, bet they still go ahead and do it
Is there not any iPhone compatible OBD? I’ve been looking on eBay for a cheapish Samsung smart phone, but even if I did find a decent one I’d still need to pay £50 odd quid for the obd eleven. Is Carly any good? Could Carly code the battery?
My car was behaving like yours too a lot of features getting disabled etc, I’ve actually got a £150 quid Halfords voucher funnily enough and I’m deciding between a next base dash cam or a Karcher washer lol maybe I should should just buy a proper battery from Halfords, did Halfords manage to code it all for you too? £180 does seem abit steep mind. Like you said, I’m worried that the battery will have good voltage across it, and they will come back and say everything’s tickity boom, where as it’s obvious the battery is on it way out, and the alternators clearly working fine as after starting the car it holds it charge if driven regularly.
I’ve managed to get the car booked it for tomorrow at my local dealer, and just about managed to get the dealer I bought the car from to agree to cover costs should it be a faulty or knackered battery- he kept beating around the bush and couldn’t give me a straight answer as to whether it’s covered or not, kept saying he needs to see diagnostic report bla bla bla, eventually got him to agree- great! Funny thing is the spanner seems to think that if a cars left alone for a few days and not started it’s not abnormal for the battery to go low/ flat- yeah okay lol left cars for 2 weeks or more in the past and much older vehicle and it turns over first time every time. Hopefully it does turn out to be the battery and it’s all sorted- hate leaving my car overnight at garages grrr, specifically told them not to wash it as I’ve just had her 4 stage machine polished, bet they still go ahead and do it
If you leave a car locked up for a couple of weeks, the power management can start to kick in as battery charge naturally drains away from keeping all the electronics alive. It will gradually shut down infotainment etc (which is kept live to make it 'wake up' more quickly when you jump in the car) until it's got into a deep sleep state. That may mean keyless entry takes a couple of goes to unlock the car when you do go to open it. You may get a battery management warning when you then start the car, but usually it will start and in regular use the battery will charge right back up again.
If you leave the car unlocked, with doors open, radio playing etc it will drain the battery fairly quickly.
I forgot to lock our S5 when we went away for 2 weeks (it was locked in the garage) and the battery had dropped 30-40% of charge in that time. it would've started without issue, but when I realised I'd left it unlocked I knew the normal shut down wouldn't have happened so put the battery on charge for a couple of days to top it up.
The Golf battery is tiny for the size of car - ours is a 65 plate and the original battery seems to work absolutely fine with circa 25k miles covered
If you leave the car unlocked, with doors open, radio playing etc it will drain the battery fairly quickly.
I forgot to lock our S5 when we went away for 2 weeks (it was locked in the garage) and the battery had dropped 30-40% of charge in that time. it would've started without issue, but when I realised I'd left it unlocked I knew the normal shut down wouldn't have happened so put the battery on charge for a couple of days to top it up.
The Golf battery is tiny for the size of car - ours is a 65 plate and the original battery seems to work absolutely fine with circa 25k miles covered
Thanks for input mate, so you think it’s not abnormal behaviour for the battery to go flat/low whilst leaving the car unlocked for an hour or 2 whilst washing the car? Does slighty hesitate after letting the car sit for a few days because I usually drive my run around which is a smart car in between, Definitely more so after leaving unlocked whilst washing. Surely in the unlocked state during the day things like radio and auto lights aren’t even operating as the keys not in the ignition? Seems abit iffy. Agreed though there’s a lot of tech and kit attached to a small battery I’m used to bigger 6 cylinder bmw engines which have a lot more powerful batteries attached
chan61922 said:
Thanks for input mate, so you think it’s not abnormal behaviour for the battery to go flat/low whilst leaving the car unlocked for an hour or 2 whilst washing the car? Does slighty hesitate after letting the car sit for a few days because I usually drive my run around which is a smart car in between, Definitely more so after leaving unlocked whilst washing. Surely in the unlocked state during the day things like radio and auto lights aren’t even operating as the keys not in the ignition? Seems abit iffy. Agreed though there’s a lot of tech and kit attached to a small battery I’m used to bigger 6 cylinder bmw engines which have a lot more powerful batteries attached
Yes it is abnormal.I've left my car unlocked for days at a time (m135i) without it going flat.
Also done the same with my old Scirocco (infact that was left 4 weeks unlocked).
You just need a new battery. At the age of car it's not unheard of.
Cheers guys, seem a lot of you have a habit of leaving your cars unlocked tut tut lol cars currently sat at garage assuming a fault with battery is found will dealer just replace with the rubbish that was originally in there? Ie 2/3 years down the line will I experience same issue? Just had a quick check at Halfords came across this which can be fitted by them too apparently and comes with a 4 year garuntee
https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet...
Worth going for? Bosch and exide equivalent on ECP was £330 and £299 with 50% discount on both, but only 3 year garuntee rather than 4 and the same 760amps
https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet...
Worth going for? Bosch and exide equivalent on ECP was £330 and £299 with 50% discount on both, but only 3 year garuntee rather than 4 and the same 760amps
chan61922 said:
Cheers guys, seem a lot of you have a habit of leaving your cars unlocked tut tut lol cars currently sat at garage assuming a fault with battery is found will dealer just replace with the rubbish that was originally in there? Ie 2/3 years down the line will I experience same issue? Just had a quick check at Halfords came across this which can be fitted by them too apparently and comes with a 4 year garuntee
https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet...
Worth going for? Bosch and exide equivalent on ECP was £330 and £299 with 50% discount on both, but only 3 year garuntee rather than 4 and the same 760amps
The Halfords one would be fine.https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet...
Worth going for? Bosch and exide equivalent on ECP was £330 and £299 with 50% discount on both, but only 3 year garuntee rather than 4 and the same 760amps
Good thing with Halfords is easy to get money back or swapped out and clearly aren't going out of business in a hurry. Plenty of branches about nationwide too.
There's a battery finder website online where you can see every brand available. Not just what's on ECP.
Personally i would look for a Varta or Bosch 5yr one. However my last experience with a Bosch s5007 was not positive. It went flat during a long few days of coding injectors and starting to test for idle and would not come back even with a full charge. Swapped to a Varta which held strong.
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