Macan Diesel prices - all over the place
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Wife wants to sell her Macan SD, 18 months old, £15k worth of options, lovely car. It was a cancelled order in February 2018. Warranty til 2021.
Not desperate to sell, but she wants a Jaguar ipace and there are some very good lease deals around at the moment.
I think the list price was around £60k, she paid £52k for it, as it was a day or 2 before Porsche stopped selling Diesels, they really wanted it gone.
So as you do, you have a look at the WBAC type sites for a base price. Has gone from £33k to £30k in the past month. Thats 50% of the RRP 18 months ago.
A couple of p/ex prices offered are similar.
Put it on Tootle (RIP) and got up to £37k from an independent dealer. Porsche dealers dont seem keen on an outright purchase so around £33k to £35k mark.
Put it on Wizzle and offers received between £27k and £34k.
Our car with that spec at an OPC will retail around £47k-£48k looking at what they have in stock.
I assume that the market just doesnt want to buy one of these unless they have a buyer in place.
I have listed it on a Macan forum for £42.5k which I assumed was about right, but proof will be in the pudding obviously. One forum member on there thinks its a great price and will shift quickly.
I remember when these were the leader on residuals, how times change............thanks Dieselgate!
Not desperate to sell, but she wants a Jaguar ipace and there are some very good lease deals around at the moment.
I think the list price was around £60k, she paid £52k for it, as it was a day or 2 before Porsche stopped selling Diesels, they really wanted it gone.
So as you do, you have a look at the WBAC type sites for a base price. Has gone from £33k to £30k in the past month. Thats 50% of the RRP 18 months ago.
A couple of p/ex prices offered are similar.
Put it on Tootle (RIP) and got up to £37k from an independent dealer. Porsche dealers dont seem keen on an outright purchase so around £33k to £35k mark.
Put it on Wizzle and offers received between £27k and £34k.
Our car with that spec at an OPC will retail around £47k-£48k looking at what they have in stock.
I assume that the market just doesnt want to buy one of these unless they have a buyer in place.
I have listed it on a Macan forum for £42.5k which I assumed was about right, but proof will be in the pudding obviously. One forum member on there thinks its a great price and will shift quickly.
I remember when these were the leader on residuals, how times change............thanks Dieselgate!
It’s very odd, because the SD should be the sweet spot in the line up - lovely mid-range delivery, excellent real world performance, and 35-40 mpg.
When the ‘facelift’ models were being tested last year, several journos, inc Frankel, bemoaned the lack of a diesel, saying that these sports SUVs were best served with a turbo Diesel engine, rather than petrol.
Must be market sentiment, although I’m pretty sure that petrol and diesel will be hit with the same hammer in future legislation and restrictions.
I’d still buy a diesel - must be some cracking good buys.
When the ‘facelift’ models were being tested last year, several journos, inc Frankel, bemoaned the lack of a diesel, saying that these sports SUVs were best served with a turbo Diesel engine, rather than petrol.
Must be market sentiment, although I’m pretty sure that petrol and diesel will be hit with the same hammer in future legislation and restrictions.
I’d still buy a diesel - must be some cracking good buys.
If you really want to sell, take the first serious trade bid you get.
I recently bought a 2015 facelift Cayenne Turbo, it was advertised for £49k in April, then mid £40s in June, and I paid sub £40k in July, the market for this stuff is brutal at the moment.
Porsche dealerships seem to manage to command good prices for them (when it comes to selling), but as you have seen they want around 20% margin (to cover prep and profit).
I recently bought a 2015 facelift Cayenne Turbo, it was advertised for £49k in April, then mid £40s in June, and I paid sub £40k in July, the market for this stuff is brutal at the moment.
Porsche dealerships seem to manage to command good prices for them (when it comes to selling), but as you have seen they want around 20% margin (to cover prep and profit).
Koln-RS said:
It’s very odd, because the SD should be the sweet spot in the line up - lovely mid-range delivery, excellent real world performance, and 35-40 mpg.
When the ‘facelift’ models were being tested last year, several journos, inc Frankel, bemoaned the lack of a diesel, saying that these sports SUVs were best served with a turbo Diesel engine, rather than petrol.
Must be market sentiment, although I’m pretty sure that petrol and diesel will be hit with the same hammer in future legislation and restrictions.
I’d still buy a diesel - must be some cracking good buys.
Frankel knows his stuff and I'd agree with him om Diesels working in SUV's (have a Cayenne S Diesel which I love) except with the Macan where you have the GTS and Turbo with a lovely petrol engine....can't think of any of the competition that come with such a nice engine. When the ‘facelift’ models were being tested last year, several journos, inc Frankel, bemoaned the lack of a diesel, saying that these sports SUVs were best served with a turbo Diesel engine, rather than petrol.
Must be market sentiment, although I’m pretty sure that petrol and diesel will be hit with the same hammer in future legislation and restrictions.
I’d still buy a diesel - must be some cracking good buys.
Anyway back to the specifics. According to the AUC site there are 30 Macan SD's in the network..which given this is Porsche's volume product is f
k all. Less than one per OPC...they've sold 9,000 SD's in the UK so that tells you it's actually a very popular car and easy to sell. Which is exactly what the Sales Exec at my OPC told me....they find them easy to shift and when Disesels were withdrawn they had a few cars coming through and lots of people after them. By contrast there are 69 992's on the AUC site...that number goes up every time I see it. There are probably something like 700 in the country. So 10% of the cars are for sale vs less than 1% for the Macan SD. Now that's a car OPC's are struggling to shift.
nick s said:
See, i think the facelift has dated the PFL Macan so much that i could see this happening to used values of the PFL..... I think they're only going to get worse as Porsche release the FL Turbo and GTS.....
Even though we have no Diesel FL cars I agree with this - the FL cars really have aged the PFL Macan.Don't get me wrong - the Diesel Macan is a great car and its shocking to see the residuals seemingly crash over the last 12-18 months.
Cheib said:
Koln-RS said:
It’s very odd, because the SD should be the sweet spot in the line up - lovely mid-range delivery, excellent real world performance, and 35-40 mpg.
When the ‘facelift’ models were being tested last year, several journos, inc Frankel, bemoaned the lack of a diesel, saying that these sports SUVs were best served with a turbo Diesel engine, rather than petrol.
When the ‘facelift’ models were being tested last year, several journos, inc Frankel, bemoaned the lack of a diesel, saying that these sports SUVs were best served with a turbo Diesel engine, rather than petrol.
While I kind of go along with that for the Macan, I think lack of diesel in the Cayenne must be seriously hurting sales, as the diesel is by far the logical choice for a big SUV. Interestingly though, Audi have brought back the diesel for their similar SQ5 model after what I presume was a few years of poor sales when they dropped it in favour of the petrol V6 engine. Not to mention the SQ7 retains the TDi engine.
I opted out of buying a new diesel Cayenne back in 2016 in favour of waiting for the next gen model.........that turned out well
chrisABP said:
nick s said:
See, i think the facelift has dated the PFL Macan so much that i could see this happening to used values of the PFL..... I think they're only going to get worse as Porsche release the FL Turbo and GTS.....
Even though we have no Diesel FL cars I agree with this - the FL cars really have aged the PFL Macan.Don't get me wrong - the Diesel Macan is a great car and its shocking to see the residuals seemingly crash over the last 12-18 months.
I am like the OP, bought a car literally days before the facelift came out and actually walked out of a Porsche showroom with a mighty discount - shocker!
Under a year on and I've already put 12,000 miles on it and it's a lovely daily. For me, in grey it is a bland blob of a thing but people seem to love it - I guess an aspirational family car.
I was going to chop it in when my GT4 is ready but it seems I may be disappointed with the trade in value! I'd be happy to hold on for a few years though; half hoping people will come to their senses. As has been said, as a daily wagon a diesel is best in my book.
Under a year on and I've already put 12,000 miles on it and it's a lovely daily. For me, in grey it is a bland blob of a thing but people seem to love it - I guess an aspirational family car.
I was going to chop it in when my GT4 is ready but it seems I may be disappointed with the trade in value! I'd be happy to hold on for a few years though; half hoping people will come to their senses. As has been said, as a daily wagon a diesel is best in my book.
Same thing seems to be happening with the Panamera in that Diesels are very unloved. I've been watching a 4S diesel up north thats for sale for 6 months, its a big spec car, heated, cooled, massage seats, chrono, PDLS Plus lights, adaptive cruise, rear steer, roof, surround view, bose etc etc and they just can't shift it, and its far from expensive against others.
I'd contemplate buying it other than the worry of reselling it later
I'd contemplate buying it other than the worry of reselling it later
Heres Johnny said:
Same thing seems to be happening with the Panamera in that Diesels are very unloved. I've been watching a 4S diesel up north thats for sale for 6 months, its a big spec car, heated, cooled, massage seats, chrono, PDLS Plus lights, adaptive cruise, rear steer, roof, surround view, bose etc etc and they just can't shift it, and its far from expensive against others.
I'd contemplate buying it other than the worry of reselling it later
Penny 4 S Diesel is a great car....I wouldn’t let that bother me. Just wish they’d made them as a Sport Turismo, then I would definitely have one. They sold 200 of them and there are only 7 for sale on the AUC....looks like they’re pretty popular to me. I'd contemplate buying it other than the worry of reselling it later
If its the Carmine Red one at OPC Chester with the Cream & Wood interior I am not surprises it hasn’t sold. Marmite spec! PCCB’s are a daft liability on one of these too.
Edit - Maybe they aren’t PCCB’s as discs don’t look big enough so perhaps owner just had callipers painted
Edited by Cheib on Saturday 31st August 20:09
Edited by Cheib on Saturday 31st August 20:11
Cheib said:
Heres Johnny said:
Same thing seems to be happening with the Panamera in that Diesels are very unloved. I've been watching a 4S diesel up north thats for sale for 6 months, its a big spec car, heated, cooled, massage seats, chrono, PDLS Plus lights, adaptive cruise, rear steer, roof, surround view, bose etc etc and they just can't shift it, and its far from expensive against others.
I'd contemplate buying it other than the worry of reselling it later
Penny 4 S Diesel is a great car....I wouldn’t let that bother me. Just wish they’d made them as a Sport Turismo, then I would definitely have one. They sold 200 of them and there are only 7 for sale on the AUC....looks like they’re pretty popular to me. I'd contemplate buying it other than the worry of reselling it later
If its the Carmine Red one at OPC Chester with the Cream & Wood interior I am not surprises it hasn’t sold. Marmite spec! PCCB’s are a daft liability on one of these too.
Edit - Maybe they aren’t PCCB’s as discs don’t look big enough so perhaps owner just had callipers painted
Edited by Cheib on Saturday 31st August 20:09
Edited by Cheib on Saturday 31st August 20:11
MOBB said:
Just to finish the story, I put the car up on PistonHeads classifieds this morning at £42.5k
A trader offered £39k which I accepted, working on the basis that realistically I would probably get 40-41 for it privately. Worth it for the lack of hassle.
Happy enough with that :-)
That's a good result.A trader offered £39k which I accepted, working on the basis that realistically I would probably get 40-41 for it privately. Worth it for the lack of hassle.
Happy enough with that :-)
All diesels are being hit Thank god for pcp as my wifes X5 is lower now than its residual with 8 months to go and bmw marked them low .unfortunately all diesels are being tarred with the same brush even though euro 6 . On the flip side the vw group are experiencing big delays for their petrol engines due to the increase in demand
tedblog said:
All diesels are being hit Thank god for pcp as my wifes X5 is lower now than its residual with 8 months to go and bmw marked them low .unfortunately all diesels are being tarred with the same brush even though euro 6 . On the flip side the vw group are experiencing big delays for their petrol engines due to the increase in demand
I know someone that part ex'd their F15 X5 30d for a new G05 40i.......and is now complaining about the sub-20mpg fuel economy. I told him what it would likely be, but being a non-petrolhead, he listened to the anti-diesel media and the sales people instead.I did enjoy the 'told you so' moment.
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