Brexit protests, close the streets.
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Better start a thread this will be a big story I feel, sorry, yet another B thread. :sigh:
Corbyn endorsed a Momentum plan to close the streets in 10cities on Saturday, London, Glasgow, Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Nottingham, Oxford, Sheffield and York, and London again on Tuesday.
Lead article in Telegraph, plus a side column on chief stirrer Laura Parker.
Ok, on your marks....Brexit Derangement Syndrome in 3, 2,...
Corbyn endorsed a Momentum plan to close the streets in 10cities on Saturday, London, Glasgow, Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Nottingham, Oxford, Sheffield and York, and London again on Tuesday.
Lead article in Telegraph, plus a side column on chief stirrer Laura Parker.
Ok, on your marks....Brexit Derangement Syndrome in 3, 2,...
Guys, there's nothing mentally ill about wanting to protect what you have, if you enjoy all that entails. Some people just like things the way they are and don't understand what they perceive to be trading it for something worse. That's not rocket science and it's disingenuous to label it a mental illness.
Nexus Icon said:
Guys, there's nothing mentally ill about wanting to protect what you have, if you enjoy all that entails. Some people just like things the way they are and don't understand what they perceive to be trading it for something worse. That's not rocket science and it's disingenuous to label it a mental illness.
best stay in the house and pray the sky doesn't fall in ....Nexus Icon said:
Guys, there's nothing mentally ill about wanting to protect what you have, if you enjoy all that entails. Some people just like things the way they are and don't understand what they perceive to be trading it for something worse. That's not rocket science and it's disingenuous to label it a mental illness.
How do you know its worse?phumy said:
Nexus Icon said:
Guys, there's nothing mentally ill about wanting to protect what you have, if you enjoy all that entails. Some people just like things the way they are and don't understand what they perceive to be trading it for something worse. That's not rocket science and it's disingenuous to label it a mental illness.
How do you know its worse?So people with different opinions are now ‘mentally ill’ according to some on here?
It would be an assault upon Democracy to not allow peaceful protests, demonstrations, rallies or campaigns in favour of a view that is not held as incitement to violence.
Regardless of which side of the debate you sit, the opposing side has every right to make their voices heard.
I suspect those who do not want to see campaigns for an alternative outcome are simply afraid: fearful that their own position will be undermined, weakened or perhaps even overturned. Folks, that's Democracy in action. There is absolutely zero Law that prevents anyone from wanting Parliament and Government to think again. It is a Representative Democracy, MP's are there to listen to what people want to say and, if a majority of MP's agree that sufficient numbers of the Public they serve want something, they can debate and vote upon it.
On the one side we have people using every legal resource they have to try and effect a different outcome - perfectly fine - and on the other, people who want to defend and support their own position. Neither side is wrong. In this case, one side has the support of Government, the other a healthy support within Parliament. Both have much to still argue for, so why should one or the other accept 'defeat' at this juncture if there is still time to persuade those Politicians who can vote either way to do so?
The argument that this or that is anti-democratic, that the Referendum was binding, that it was advisory, that it has to be delivered first, that there is a mandate for this or that, that their isn't a mandate for this or that is all just gobs
te - the usual soundbite rhetoric either side clings to but is utterly meaningless in the grand scheme of how Democracy works. Everyone has a voice and everyone can use that voice - as some are in these plentiful Threads - to argue their case to the very end. And beyond! Let's not forget that any delivered outcome can also be overturned, should there be a collective majority for such. This is modern political Democracy at work, it doesn't 'end'. There is no 'finality'. People are allowed to change their minds, a new majority is allowed to emerge - at any time. So have fun, nothing is ever truly over. 
Regardless of which side of the debate you sit, the opposing side has every right to make their voices heard.
I suspect those who do not want to see campaigns for an alternative outcome are simply afraid: fearful that their own position will be undermined, weakened or perhaps even overturned. Folks, that's Democracy in action. There is absolutely zero Law that prevents anyone from wanting Parliament and Government to think again. It is a Representative Democracy, MP's are there to listen to what people want to say and, if a majority of MP's agree that sufficient numbers of the Public they serve want something, they can debate and vote upon it.
On the one side we have people using every legal resource they have to try and effect a different outcome - perfectly fine - and on the other, people who want to defend and support their own position. Neither side is wrong. In this case, one side has the support of Government, the other a healthy support within Parliament. Both have much to still argue for, so why should one or the other accept 'defeat' at this juncture if there is still time to persuade those Politicians who can vote either way to do so?
The argument that this or that is anti-democratic, that the Referendum was binding, that it was advisory, that it has to be delivered first, that there is a mandate for this or that, that their isn't a mandate for this or that is all just gobs
te - the usual soundbite rhetoric either side clings to but is utterly meaningless in the grand scheme of how Democracy works. Everyone has a voice and everyone can use that voice - as some are in these plentiful Threads - to argue their case to the very end. And beyond! Let's not forget that any delivered outcome can also be overturned, should there be a collective majority for such. This is modern political Democracy at work, it doesn't 'end'. There is no 'finality'. People are allowed to change their minds, a new majority is allowed to emerge - at any time. So have fun, nothing is ever truly over. chrispmartha said:
Ratski83 said:
I hope Boris tells the police to use the same level of force as they did against the Countryside Alliance during the fox hunting protests under Blair.
Send in the riot squad with truncheons drawn and crack some skulls.
Maybe he could use water cannons... oh hang onSend in the riot squad with truncheons drawn and crack some skulls.
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