Rapide brake discs compatibility
Rapide brake discs compatibility
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Larry5.2

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496 posts

138 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Which other models have the same brake discs as a 2010 Rapide?
Also, anyone know of a source of 'competitively' priced discs?

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

156 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Not sure what you consider to be “competitively priced”. How’s this?

https://www.scuderiacarparts.com/part/185419/aston...


Larry5.2

Original Poster:

496 posts

138 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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V8V Pete said:
Not sure what you consider to be “competitively priced”. How’s this?

https://www.scuderiacarparts.com/part/185419/aston...
Expensive when the DB9 rear disk shown in the Frequently Bought Together section is £154!!

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

156 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Larry5.2 said:
Expensive when the DB9 rear disk shown in the Frequently Bought Together section is £154!!
Quite different discs to be fair.

I'm not excusing the Aston Tax but go ahead and put cheap alternatives on a high performance car if you want. Whilst you're at it why not fit some budget tyres too?

I've just replaced the discs & pads all round on my Vantage S and that was not a cheap day. However, I chose to fit the superior proper two part front discs which were originally specified on the Vantage S rather than the co-cast ones that came on the later cars (mine included). They're great. The brakes feel fantastic now. I want the best possible parts for my car and am prepared to pay a little extra for them if necessary. However, I did price check every part before giving the go ahead and every price quoted by my excellent Indy was bang on. Can't say fairer than that. Not sure what a Main Dealer would have charged ............

Larry5.2

Original Poster:

496 posts

138 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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V8V Pete said:
Quite different discs to be fair.

I'm not excusing the Aston Tax but go ahead and put cheap alternatives on a high performance car if you want. Whilst you're at it why not fit some budget tyres too?

I've just replaced the discs & pads all round on my Vantage S and that was not a cheap day. However, I chose to fit the superior proper two part front discs which were originally specified on the Vantage S rather than the co-cast ones that came on the later cars (mine included). They're great. The brakes feel fantastic now. I want the best possible parts for my car and am prepared to pay a little extra for them if necessary. However, I did price check every part before giving the go ahead and every price quoted by my excellent Indy was bang on. Can't say fairer than that. Not sure what a Main Dealer would have charged ............
No need for the sarcastic comment, I was just asking what alternatives there were.

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

156 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Larry5.2 said:
No need for the sarcastic comment, I was just asking what alternatives there were.
Sorry - no offence intended.

By the lack of contributors it would appear there aren't many alternatives. Have you found any?

Larry5.2

Original Poster:

496 posts

138 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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No I haven't. I'm surprised that with the similarity between the different models in the Aston range, they would re-use previous parts. I'm told the Rapide is a pretty much a stretched DB9, so why design everything from scratch, especially if you have to factor in the logistics of keeping spare parts stock for the next 20 or 30 years.

I guess Rapide originals is the only way. At least there are EBC upgrade front and handbrake pads available to bring down the cost.

KevinBird

1,068 posts

237 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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MarkwG

5,934 posts

219 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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KevinBird said:
eek I guess that puts the Rapide price in perspective!

Ken Figenus

6,011 posts

147 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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DB9 front disks are Rapide rears!!! The front 6 pots disks are huge!

I have just done all mine with OEM Rapide S slotted disks (I wont tell you how much they were as i got them BOGOF in a closing down sale biggrin). I used Porterfield RS-2 pads in them. They are far less dusty but lack that initial bite. They are also more resilient for an Alpine pass but I guess I preferred the OEM - just find who makes them for Aston and be sure the wear sensor will clip in. Calipers and disks are shared parts made by Brembo.

Emilio Largo

769 posts

141 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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V8V Pete said:
However, I chose to fit the superior proper two part front discs which were originally specified on the Vantage S rather than the co-cast ones that came on the later cars (mine included).
Pete, have you got any technical information you could share why the "sliding"/two parts-front discs should be superior to the much cheaper co-cast variant? Why exactly did you prefer them?

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

156 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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MarkwG said:
KevinBird said:
eek I guess that puts the Rapide price in perspective!
That's a bargain IF they are in good condition as that's about £20K worth of parts.

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

156 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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Emilio Largo said:
V8V Pete said:
However, I chose to fit the superior proper two part front discs which were originally specified on the Vantage S rather than the co-cast ones that came on the later cars (mine included).
Pete, have you got any technical information you could share why the "sliding"/two parts-front discs should be superior to the much cheaper co-cast variant? Why exactly did you prefer them?
You'd have to ask someone better informed than me for "technical information" but my understanding is that they are lighter and have better heat dissipation. My previous ones had done 35,000 pretty hard miles and were fairly circumferentially scored so brand new discs and pads were going to feel better whatever. Subjectively the new ones have better bite, progression and "smoothness". Maybe all of that would have been true of brand new co-cast ones but I want my car to be as good as it possibly can be so I put the best bits on it.

Next might have to be a fully dynamically balanced GT4 spec engine rebuild but that's a whole other level of unjustifiable madness. Watch this space ...........

Cold

16,735 posts

120 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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Does "best" equal "largest invoice"?

Or is there a real world scenario whereby quality parts can be sourced from outside the usual network of suppliers without the burden of an unreasonable cost?
I ask that question as someone who recently replaced their worn Brembo discs with new Brembo discs for £78.00 each. Obviously neither an AM dealer nor an AM specialist featured in that purchase.

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

156 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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Cold said:
Does "best" equal "largest invoice"?
Absolutely not. When did I last pay a main dealer a penny? If there's a bargain to be had then I'll take it happily. A bit like paying £20 for a TPMS sensor rather than £100.

Cold said:
Or is there a real world scenario whereby quality parts can be sourced from outside the usual network of suppliers without the burden of an unreasonable cost?
I ask that question as someone who recently replaced their worn Brembo discs with new Brembo discs for £78.00 each. Obviously neither an AM dealer nor an AM specialist featured in that purchase.
The smaller brakes on the older Vantage can indeed be found for a good price. If you can find me a bargain set of genuine Brembo larger Vantage S front discs then I'll get those next time. I couldn't find any.

Larry5.2

Original Poster:

496 posts

138 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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So do the DB9 front discs fit on the Rapid rears?

Edited by Larry5.2 on Friday 6th September 10:34

sheldonlloyd

5 posts

139 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Ken Figenus said:
DB9 front disks are Rapide rears!!! The front 6 pots disks are huge!

I have just done all mine with OEM Rapide S slotted disks (I wont tell you how much they were as i got them BOGOF in a closing down sale biggrin). I used Porterfield RS-2 pads in them. They are far less dusty but lack that initial bite. They are also more resilient for an Alpine pass but I guess I preferred the OEM - just find who makes them for Aston and be sure the wear sensor will clip in. Calipers and disks are shared parts made by Brembo.
I have a 2010 Rapide. So the front discs are unique to the Rapide but the rear discs are DB9 front discs - correct? Have you got a link to the front discs supplier?

bignoise

314 posts

131 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Rapide has a different stud pattern (PCD) to the DB9 and vantage etc so discs are pretty specific to the model

The Vanquish etc which have the same PCD have CCM brakes