British justice system at its best...
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I remember this incident being reported and the police asking people to ID the offender and was wondering what punishment he might get. Well he was caught and sentenced to.... community service?!
The guy has 9 convictions for 14 offences.
WTF?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7430305/M...
The guy has 9 convictions for 14 offences.
WTF?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7430305/M...
Well I'm sure there's something to be said for the great/implied/supposed importance of protecting our fishermen and their rights, which has translated into this being the fine for being caught outside the law which is nothing to do with the law on knife crime?
Two numbers that don't appear rational when compared to each other though in any meaningful way though
Two numbers that don't appear rational when compared to each other though in any meaningful way though
red_slr said:
I remember this incident being reported and the police asking people to ID the offender and was wondering what punishment he might get. Well he was caught and sentenced to.... community service?!
The guy has 9 convictions for 14 offences.
WTF?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7430305/M...
And he works as a customer service adviser!The guy has 9 convictions for 14 offences.
WTF?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7430305/M...
Assault is very much an outcome-based based offence.
Hit someone and it results in a minor injury (like this) - common assault.
Hit someone and they fall and crack their skull on the floor - GBH (for example).
Sentencing guidelines for common assault leave little scope for a custodial sentence, although he looks to have been sentenced within the lower-end of a category 1:
Hit someone and it results in a minor injury (like this) - common assault.
Hit someone and they fall and crack their skull on the floor - GBH (for example).
Sentencing guidelines for common assault leave little scope for a custodial sentence, although he looks to have been sentenced within the lower-end of a category 1:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9864919/fishery-boss...
I wonder if any of these chaps had a rod licence?
If they couldn't be nabbed for theft or assault then that must have been a cut and dried alternative?
I wonder if any of these chaps had a rod licence?
If they couldn't be nabbed for theft or assault then that must have been a cut and dried alternative?
poo at Paul's said:
He just needs a bit of street justice and it will come. Go around punching people like a 
as he seems to, and eventually you will punch and even bigger and end up getting about by blowing into a straw.
he has already had that. apparently suffers ptsd as a result of a knife attack. doesn't seem to have altered his violent tendencies. as he seems to, and eventually you will punch and even bigger and end up getting about by blowing into a straw. La Liga said:
Assault is very much an outcome-based based offence.
Hit someone and it results in a minor injury (like this) - common assault.
Hit someone and they fall and crack their skull on the floor - GBH (for example).
Sentencing guidelines for common assault leave little scope for a custodial sentence, although he looks to have been sentenced within the lower-end of a category 1:
Like most offences should be, it ought IMHO to be an input-based offence. Unfortunately we now take as read that the same behaviour will be punished differently depending upon the blind luck of happenstance. Intent and action matter rather more, I think...Hit someone and it results in a minor injury (like this) - common assault.
Hit someone and they fall and crack their skull on the floor - GBH (for example).
Sentencing guidelines for common assault leave little scope for a custodial sentence, although he looks to have been sentenced within the lower-end of a category 1:
How about a second offence of smuggling drugs into prison?
Prison for sure?
Nope ordered to abide by a 8pm-6am curfew.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7434481/M...
If only she'd been smuggling in radar jammers.....
Prison for sure?
Nope ordered to abide by a 8pm-6am curfew.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7434481/M...
If only she'd been smuggling in radar jammers.....
skwdenyer said:
La Liga said:
Assault is very much an outcome-based based offence.
Hit someone and it results in a minor injury (like this) - common assault.
Hit someone and they fall and crack their skull on the floor - GBH (for example).
Sentencing guidelines for common assault leave little scope for a custodial sentence, although he looks to have been sentenced within the lower-end of a category 1:
Like most offences should be, it ought IMHO to be an input-based offence. Unfortunately we now take as read that the same behaviour will be punished differently depending upon the blind luck of happenstance. Intent and action matter rather more, I think...Hit someone and it results in a minor injury (like this) - common assault.
Hit someone and they fall and crack their skull on the floor - GBH (for example).
Sentencing guidelines for common assault leave little scope for a custodial sentence, although he looks to have been sentenced within the lower-end of a category 1:
Intent is already punished i.e. if you intend a greater assault then you've attempted it, which is an offence.
The issue arises when you try to sentence based on what may have happened. To use this example it's possible to victim could have suffered no injury or fallen backwards, cracked her skull and died. We're not going to be able to sentence people for minor assaults because they may have lead to serious outcomes.
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