Respraying guards red
Discussion
I want to respray the front bumper of my guards red Cayman.
Because guards red is a solid colour, am I right in saying there should be no problem colour matching to the rest of the car?
On a metallic car I would expect to blend the wings and maybe bonnet but I don’t think that’s necessary here?
Also am I right in saying the bumper should be removed from the car before painting? Seems like a bit of a bodge just masking everything up.
Because guards red is a solid colour, am I right in saying there should be no problem colour matching to the rest of the car?
On a metallic car I would expect to blend the wings and maybe bonnet but I don’t think that’s necessary here?
Also am I right in saying the bumper should be removed from the car before painting? Seems like a bit of a bodge just masking everything up.
Guards Red is very hard to blend between panels. You can quite easily spot when front bumpers have been resprayed without blending between panels.
Guards is a great colour but a real bugger if you need correct small parts of the car and you are fastidious about the paint looking right.
Guards is a great colour but a real bugger if you need correct small parts of the car and you are fastidious about the paint looking right.
Prestonese said:
Guards Red is very hard to blend between panels. You can quite easily spot when front bumpers have been resprayed without blending between panels.
Guards is a great colour but a real bugger if you need correct small parts of the car and you are fastidious about the paint looking right.
I was told the same about getting bits of my GR 964RS re-sprayed. That said, if you are using a good paint shop I suspect you will only only be disappointed by the results if you are super-fastidious about it.Guards is a great colour but a real bugger if you need correct small parts of the car and you are fastidious about the paint looking right.
At the end of the day, you don't have too many options. I assume you want to repair stone chip damage, so you can either spray the bumper, put up with the chips, or do the entire car.
OPCs re-spray the front end of cars for resale all the time.
I have a guards red car. Body shops seem to have differing opinions about spraying whole panels or blending in to adjoining panels?
Personally, I do not want colour blended on top of clear coat and then re-coated with clear coat. I prefer to keep as much original paint as possible.
There are several versions of guards red. Make sure the body shop uses a swatch kit to get the best match with your car and try to confine the paint to whole panels to keep life simple. A bumper may be sprayed several times during the life of the car and I hate to think how much extra paint could end up on other parts of the car if its blended every time.
If the car has been outside in the sun for years, then blending may be the only way to avoid a full respray.
Personally, I do not want colour blended on top of clear coat and then re-coated with clear coat. I prefer to keep as much original paint as possible.
There are several versions of guards red. Make sure the body shop uses a swatch kit to get the best match with your car and try to confine the paint to whole panels to keep life simple. A bumper may be sprayed several times during the life of the car and I hate to think how much extra paint could end up on other parts of the car if its blended every time.
If the car has been outside in the sun for years, then blending may be the only way to avoid a full respray.
Pugley said:
I have a guards red car. Body shops seem to have differing opinions about spraying whole panels or blending in to adjoining panels?
Personally, I do not want colour blended on top of clear coat and then re-coated with clear coat. I prefer to keep as much original paint as possible.
There are several versions of guards red. Make sure the body shop uses a swatch kit to get the best match with your car and try to confine the paint to whole panels to keep life simple. A bumper may be sprayed several times during the life of the car and I hate to think how much extra paint could end up on other parts of the car if its blended every time.
If the car has been outside in the sun for years, then blending may be the only way to avoid a full respray.
Agreed, the factory paint is really very good so any blending will be a step backwards imo.Personally, I do not want colour blended on top of clear coat and then re-coated with clear coat. I prefer to keep as much original paint as possible.
There are several versions of guards red. Make sure the body shop uses a swatch kit to get the best match with your car and try to confine the paint to whole panels to keep life simple. A bumper may be sprayed several times during the life of the car and I hate to think how much extra paint could end up on other parts of the car if its blended every time.
If the car has been outside in the sun for years, then blending may be the only way to avoid a full respray.
My car is machined polished yearly so there is little or no fading.
You may notice the difference between old and new paint because paint fades over time, especially if it's red and especially on an 80's or early 90's Porsche because the solid color used was probably a single stage paint and not base / clear.
A good buff may solve this problem and if it's a 1/2 decent body shop, they'll know to check the paint against a test panel with the rest of the car before shooting the whole bumper.
A good buff may solve this problem and if it's a 1/2 decent body shop, they'll know to check the paint against a test panel with the rest of the car before shooting the whole bumper.
If it's original paint, I think they can probably match it well. One of the problems with Guards Red/Indischrot is that there's been quite a few variants on top of the usual red fading problems - I'm trying to deal with what should be Guard's Red on an 80s car, but it's been resprayed at least once, in addition to being terribly faded, so short of a full respray, I'm going to be satisfied with a "good enough" match.
Also, you sometimes get a mild colour difference between metal and plastic areas even out the factory, so where plastic is being repainted, always look at the paint match before it's redone, and manage your expectations against that. It's not uncommon for people to think a match is poor after repair work, when in fact it's quite likely just as good as it was in the first place.
Also, you sometimes get a mild colour difference between metal and plastic areas even out the factory, so where plastic is being repainted, always look at the paint match before it's redone, and manage your expectations against that. It's not uncommon for people to think a match is poor after repair work, when in fact it's quite likely just as good as it was in the first place.
Essential said:
If only painting the front bumper def do not blend.
Most of the solid colour cars look different shades, only very slightly on plastic bumper Vs mental bonnet.
Decent body shop will match perfect. Speed yellow and guards Red not the easiest of colours
This is exactly right, we have a lot of bumpers painted along with other panels and even all being done at the same time you may notice a slight difference because of the material it is going on. That being said, it shouldn't be monumental. Yellow, in my experience is by far the worst colour to match without using a spectrograph. Most of the solid colour cars look different shades, only very slightly on plastic bumper Vs mental bonnet.
Decent body shop will match perfect. Speed yellow and guards Red not the easiest of colours
What a mission this is turning out to be! The quotes I have had have all been wildly different, from £95 to £870...two garages who quoted me over the phone even put £100 on the price when I arrived because they "didn't realise the bumper was so big" 
All have said they won't blend the paint into the wings because it'll sit differently due to one being plastic and the other metal so blending is pointless, but they will blend it into the outer edges of the bumper itself, leaving the factory paint towards the edges.
All have said they won't blend the paint into the wings because it'll sit differently due to one being plastic and the other metal so blending is pointless, but they will blend it into the outer edges of the bumper itself, leaving the factory paint towards the edges.
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