Gassing Station Paging Change?
Gassing Station Paging Change?
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PetrolTed

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34,468 posts

332 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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Was thinking last night (trying to apply a bit of lateral thinking to some of the speed issues I've had of late) and wondered what people thought of generating the page of topics grouped by day(s) rather than the arbitary 20 topics at a time?

e.g. Pie & Piston would show all today's topics on the current page, yesterday's on page 2, the day before's on page 3 etc.

Less busy forums would have pages that would show 3 days at a time etc.

What do you reckon?

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

287 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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I reckon that is a good idea

GingerNinja

3,989 posts

287 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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PetrolTed said:
Was thinking last night (trying to apply a bit of lateral thinking to some of the speed issues I've had of late) and wondered what people thought of generating the page of topics grouped by day(s) rather than the arbitary 20 topics at a time?

e.g. Pie & Piston would show all today's topics on the current page, yesterday's on page 2, the day before's on page 3 etc.

Less busy forums would have pages that would show 3 days at a time etc.

What do you reckon?



Sounds interesting - could get pretty long page lengths though for the busy forums like this one?
Is it too difficult to let individuals be able to select their page sorting preferences? Like 20/page 50/page, todays posts etc?

>> Edited by GingerNinja on Wednesday 1st June 11:01

Tuna

19,930 posts

313 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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Sounds good to me.

Either that, or start charging people - which will instantly remove half of your troublesome readership

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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Would make sense... Just a thought, could the performance hit be generated by the split of GG & the Pie & Piston?

A lot of people now use the "whats new" view grouped by forum rather than hanging around in an individual forum. Would that be throwing a lot more queries at the servers?

_DeeJay_

5,057 posts

283 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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BliarOut said:
Would make sense... Just a thought, could the performance hit be generated by the split of GG & the Pie & Piston?

A lot of people now use the "whats new" view grouped by forum rather than hanging around in an individual forum. Would that be throwing a lot more queries at the servers?


It shouldn't, should be just the same number (i.e. one!).

If I understood Ted correctly, the strain is placed on the servers because of the overhead of splitting results across pages (and the results will change minute by minute so the cache won't be much use).

PetrolTed

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34,468 posts

332 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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BliarOut said:
Would make sense... Just a thought, could the performance hit be generated by the split of GG & the Pie & Piston?


Partly - we're seeing more traffic in general and some of my queries were 'sub-optimal'

stackmonkey

5,084 posts

278 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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Mrs Fish said:
I reckon that is a good idea


What she said

PetrolTed

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34,468 posts

332 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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Technically, grabbing a slice of topics within a date range is very efficient. Grabbing 20 topics from all topics isn't very efficient.

However, I've just tried it out and it feels good actually. The arbitary 20 topics usually means that I look at the current page and not much else. Knowing that a page is 'today' and the previous page is 'yesterday' is more intuitive and engaging

thunderstruck

8,875 posts

311 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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PetrolTed said:
stuff


Like it. However, does it mean topics started today will be on page one, or topics posted in? Hope it's the latter

miniman

30,022 posts

291 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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PetrolTed said:
The arbitary 20 topics usually means that I look at the current page and not much else. Knowing that a page is 'today' and the previous page is 'yesterday' is more intuitive and engaging

great idea. The volume of new topics in GG and P&P is such that topics rapidly drop down to page 3 or 4 and I think a lot of them never get seen. I've often asked a quick question and then found 30 mins later it's on page 5 with no replies - and not much chance of getting one.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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PetrolTed said:

BliarOut said:
Would make sense... Just a thought, could the performance hit be generated by the split of GG & the Pie & Piston?



Partly - we're seeing more traffic in general and some of my queries were 'sub-optimal'


Ah, it's probably worth paying attention to the "what's new" queries then to make sure they're not "sub-optimal" as a lot of people probably don't browse by forum, but by "what's new"

If that's the case, the paging change might not yield as much of a benefit.

Can you tell which are your most used queries?

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

290 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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Do you mean threads last replied to today or threads started today ??

Ie will the Sean Connery joke thread be on page 2 or page 720

Will it not make it more difficult to keep a conversation running ?

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

290 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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BliarOut said:
Ah, it's probably worth paying attention to the "what's new" queries then to make sure they're not "sub-optimal" as a lot of people probably don't browse by forum, but by "what's new"
Really I browse by forum P&P, GG, Biker, Caterham, kits and motorsport and rarely any others

z1000

649 posts

267 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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anonymous said:
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I agree with the above. A thread can become topical again months after it was started. Instead of contributing to an existing thread , won't these proposed changes encourage people to start anew ?

miniman

30,022 posts

291 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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BliarOut said:
Can you tell which are your most used queries?


DELETE * FROM tblForumPosts WHERE Uid='jondokic' ???

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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Incorrigible said:

BliarOut said:
Ah, it's probably worth paying attention to the "what's new" queries then to make sure they're not "sub-optimal" as a lot of people probably don't browse by forum, but by "what's new"

Really I browse by forum P&P, GG, Biker, Caterham, kits and motorsport and rarely any others


I just use the "what's new" with my favourites selected. P&P GG SP&L Porsche & Boxster.

Much easier to keep up to date with what's of interest, but I would imagine it throws a more complex query at the servers.

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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miniman said:

BliarOut said:
Can you tell which are your most used queries?



DELETE * FROM tblForumPosts WHERE Uid='jondokic' ???


pesty

42,655 posts

285 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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I fear change

PetrolTed

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34,468 posts

332 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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z1000 said:

anonymous said:
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I agree with the above. A thread can become topical again months after it was started. Instead of contributing to an existing thread , won't these proposed changes encourage people to start anew ?


Don't think it will really. It will allow a larger number of topics on each page and therefore fewer will be lost over the page as happens currently.