Working time directive
Discussion
I've got two jobs. One is 40 hours a week, the other is 24 every two weeks.
I've had to get persimmon from my main job to carry on with my other one for the time being.
Second job is a carer. My hours are Friday and Saturday 2100 to 0900. I can sleep between 2300 and 0600.
Main job have said I have to keep to under 48 hours a week between the two averaged over 15 weeks.
Does this take into account leave from mh main job?
I've got a weeks leave next week, and I won't be doing the second job from December (11 weeks?) so don't think it will be a huge issue but just wanted to check if anyone knows.
Someone has also said that sleeping night hours don't count when it comes to WTD? I've been doing it two years any only once woken up during the night due to a sickness bug they had. Other than that im only up as many times as my bladder tells me to!
I've had to get persimmon from my main job to carry on with my other one for the time being.
Second job is a carer. My hours are Friday and Saturday 2100 to 0900. I can sleep between 2300 and 0600.
Main job have said I have to keep to under 48 hours a week between the two averaged over 15 weeks.
Does this take into account leave from mh main job?
I've got a weeks leave next week, and I won't be doing the second job from December (11 weeks?) so don't think it will be a huge issue but just wanted to check if anyone knows.
Someone has also said that sleeping night hours don't count when it comes to WTD? I've been doing it two years any only once woken up during the night due to a sickness bug they had. Other than that im only up as many times as my bladder tells me to!
How will the first employer monitor your hours in the second job?
As already said you can opt out. My last employer a well known national company had drivers working 50-60 hours every week. They had all signed opt outs. They even disciplined drivers for refusing another job 12 hours into their day. But that's another story. Their attitude to discipline was the main reason I left.
Some drivers opted back in to the directive to reduce their hours as it was the only way to avoid excessive hours.
As already said you can opt out. My last employer a well known national company had drivers working 50-60 hours every week. They had all signed opt outs. They even disciplined drivers for refusing another job 12 hours into their day. But that's another story. Their attitude to discipline was the main reason I left.
Some drivers opted back in to the directive to reduce their hours as it was the only way to avoid excessive hours.
No employer may demand that you work more than 48 hours a week but as mentioned, you may choose to opt out of the WTD and how may hours sleep you get is of no interest to the employer unless it impacts on your ability to do the work.
Employers can stop you working a second job but this is normally restricted to where conflicts of interest may exist or where your availability is limited. This will be contained within your contract of employment.
Your annual leave is set for each job individually. If you've used up your paid leave with one job, then you will have to take additional leave with that employer as unpaid, with your paid leave then coming from your other employer. This assumes that the employer is willing to allow unpaid leave.
HTH
Employers can stop you working a second job but this is normally restricted to where conflicts of interest may exist or where your availability is limited. This will be contained within your contract of employment.
Your annual leave is set for each job individually. If you've used up your paid leave with one job, then you will have to take additional leave with that employer as unpaid, with your paid leave then coming from your other employer. This assumes that the employer is willing to allow unpaid leave.
HTH
LosingGrip said:
Someone has also said that sleeping night hours don't count when it comes to WTD?
I think there is a vaguely related test case ongoing related to carers and legal minimum wage (get paid less when they are sleeping, effectively)https://www.crunch.co.uk/knowledge/employment/care...
ACAS may be able to help you, and are free.
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