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In the Irish sea, Lobsters and fish are now found with various deformities such as extra limbs, heads etc. Seagull sh*t collected from outside Sellafield has been discovered to be radioactive. There is a child leukemia 'hotspot' in west Cumbria.
Mox fuel which was to be sold to Japan has been returned to Cumbria because of falsification of safety recordsrecords. The Japanese were the only customers for this nasty stuff so now the Heysham 2 power plant is to be closed.
Nevertheless, Patricia Hewett has extended a loan to British Energy on our behalf of, wait for it,... 650 million pounds. This is not just stupid, but since it was done without EC approval, is also against the law.
Why dont we get some wind and wave power going, scrap nuclear when possible but Mox immediately and leave the oil for us Pistonheads?
Peace man!
Mox fuel which was to be sold to Japan has been returned to Cumbria because of falsification of safety recordsrecords. The Japanese were the only customers for this nasty stuff so now the Heysham 2 power plant is to be closed.
Nevertheless, Patricia Hewett has extended a loan to British Energy on our behalf of, wait for it,... 650 million pounds. This is not just stupid, but since it was done without EC approval, is also against the law.
Why dont we get some wind and wave power going, scrap nuclear when possible but Mox immediately and leave the oil for us Pistonheads?
Peace man!
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In the Irish sea, Lobsters and fish are now found with various deformities such as extra limbs, heads etc. Seagull sh*t collected from outside Sellafield has been discovered to be radioactive. There is a child leukemia 'hotspot' in west Cumbria.
Mox fuel which was to be sold to Japan has been returned to Cumbria because of falsification of safety recordsrecords. The Japanese were the only customers for this nasty stuff so now the Heysham 2 power plant is to be closed.
Nevertheless, Patricia Hewett has extended a loan to British Energy on our behalf of, wait for it,... 650 million pounds. This is not just stupid, but since it was done without EC approval, is also against the law.
Why dont we get some wind and wave power going, scrap nuclear when possible but Mox immediately and leave the oil for us Pistonheads?
Peace man!
Yeah they are gonna need bailing out until we return to a sensible programme of building the only clean form of energy which is of course more nuclear power plants. Anyone who thinks wind and wave power is viable is "away with the fairies"
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... the only clean form of energy which is of course more nuclear power plants.
Granted wind, wave & solar energy will not fulfill all of our requirements at the moment but unless we start to develop these sources, we will be burying radioactive waste all over the country or shipping it around the world. My local council tell me you need planning permission to put a domestic windmill on your roof, but can slap a satellite dish, an ariel, a car on bricks or a knackered caravan wherever you like.
... the only clean form of energy which is of course more nuclear power plants.
Granted wind, wave & solar energy will not fulfill all of our requirements at the moment but unless we start to develop these sources, we will be burying radioactive waste all over the country or shipping it around the world. My local council tell me you need planning permission to put a domestic windmill on your roof, but can slap a satellite dish, an ariel, a car on bricks or a knackered caravan wherever you like.
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... the only clean form of energy which is of course more nuclear power plants.
Granted wind, wave & solar energy will not fulfill all of our requirements at the moment but unless we start to develop these sources, we will be burying radioactive waste all over the country or shipping it around the world. My local council tell me you need planning permission to put a domestic windmill on your roof, but can slap a satellite dish, an ariel, a car on bricks or a knackered caravan wherever you like.
The new generation of 'pebble bed' reators are decades ahead of the dodgy old clunkers sellafield has, much cleaner, cannot 'meltdown' and are much more efficent - using most of the radioactive material in the reactor, therefore greatly reducing the dangerous waste by products, and making them an ideal solution to our powwer needs, at least until more viable other methods are available. Not that I don't agree Sellafield should have been shut down years ago, just that we shouldn't write off nuclear power.
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Anyone who thinks wind and wave power is viable is "away with the fairies"
Facts:
Solar PV (Photovoltaic) generated power could provide 10,000 times more energy than the world currently uses.
If we covered a small fraction of the Sahara desert with PV, we could generate all the world's electricity requirements.
If you install a solar PV tiled roof, you could prevent over 34 tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions during its lifetime.
Today all TV and communication satellites are powered by PV. In the heavens there is no mains power, but the earth receives a continuous power input from the sun of 200 x 1015 Watts - that’s 200 followed by 15 zeros! An unimaginably huge amount of energy which completely dwarfs the capabilities of fossil fuels or nuclear fission…and its clean and free.
Many buildings use cladding materials which cost £1000 per square metre. The bronze façade to the new Westminster parliament office complex cost over £7000 per square metre. By contrast, solar PV cladding - every bit as attractive - costs as little as £500 per square metre. It would also have provided clean and indeed free power for the building.
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Facts:
Solar PV (Photovoltaic) generated power could provide 10,000 times more energy than the world currently uses.
If we covered a small fraction of the Sahara desert with PV, we could generate all the world's electricity requirements.
If you install a solar PV tiled roof, you could prevent over 34 tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions during its lifetime.
Today all TV and communication satellites are powered by PV. In the heavens there is no mains power, but the earth receives a continuous power input from the sun of 200 x 1015 Watts - that’s 200 followed by 15 zeros! An unimaginably huge amount of energy which completely dwarfs the capabilities of fossil fuels or nuclear fission…and its clean and free.
Many buildings use cladding materials which cost £1000 per square metre. The bronze façade to the new Westminster parliament office complex cost over £7000 per square metre. By contrast, solar PV cladding - every bit as attractive - costs as little as £500 per square metre. It would also have provided clean and indeed free power for the building.
Don't suppose you have any links for those do you? I'd really like to learn more about latest generation pvs, but don'r really know where to start looking...
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Anyone who thinks wind and wave power is viable is "away with the fairies"
Facts:
Solar PV (Photovoltaic) generated power could provide 10,000 times more energy than the world currently uses.
If we covered a small fraction of the Sahara desert with PV, we could generate all the world's electricity requirements.
If you install a solar PV tiled roof, you could prevent over 34 tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions during its lifetime.
Today all TV and communication satellites are powered by PV. In the heavens there is no mains power, but the earth receives a continuous power input from the sun of 200 x 1015 Watts - that’s 200 followed by 15 zeros! An unimaginably huge amount of energy which completely dwarfs the capabilities of fossil fuels or nuclear fission…and its clean and free.
Many buildings use cladding materials which cost £1000 per square metre. The bronze façade to the new Westminster parliament office complex cost over £7000 per square metre. By contrast, solar PV cladding - every bit as attractive - costs as little as £500 per square metre. It would also have provided clean and indeed free power for the building.
I very nearly added solar power to that post as it is indeed a viable alternative energy source. However my original statement still stands The druids who would have the planet festooned in windmills and our coasts awash in stagnent water and dead fish are away with the fairies
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I very nearly added solar power to that post as it is indeed a viable alternative energy source. However my original statement still stands The druids who would have the planet festooned in windmills and our coasts awash in stagnent water and dead fish are away with the fairies
Oh, I don't know, the smell of rotting fish on all our shores could be quite appealing
not to mention getting chopped seagull off the wind farms Sounds like solar power is the way to go. Perhaps other power sources could be used in combination with solar. Up here in Cumbria the sun pretty much dissappears for the winter months but the wind doesnt, so wouldnt a small windmill be a possibility to suppliment solar?
I bet if someone made a reasonably priced package of solar panels & windmill, they would sell like hot cakes. You can sell surplus back to the national grid.
I dont suppose there would actually be a surplus in most cases, but at least we could cut our bills and do something for the environment.
I bet if someone made a reasonably priced package of solar panels & windmill, they would sell like hot cakes. You can sell surplus back to the national grid.
I dont suppose there would actually be a surplus in most cases, but at least we could cut our bills and do something for the environment.
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Sounds like solar power is the way to go. Perhaps other power sources could be used in combination with solar. Up here in Cumbria the sun pretty much dissappears for the winter months but the wind doesnt, so wouldnt a small windmill be a possibility to suppliment solar?
I bet if someone made a reasonably priced package of solar panels & windmill, they would sell like hot cakes. You can sell surplus back to the national grid.
I dont suppose there would actually be a surplus in most cases, but at least we could cut our bills and do something for the environment.
I bloody hate windmills they look crap and they take 100 years to generate enough electricity to replace the energy it cost to make them in the first place. now where is my chain saw?
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I bloody hate windmills they look crap and they take 100 years to generate enough electricity to replace the energy it cost to make them in the first place. now where is my chain saw?
What a load of old bollock`s it is the future, ok it will not supply all our needs but each windmill saves 20,000tn of coal per year .
Denmark lead the world in this technology and it works
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What a load of old bollock`s it is the future,
Besides, it provides hours of ammusement for old folk and christians (or people fed up with looking at trains) who regularly flock there in their Allegros, Rovers and Dolomites to wrap themselves in blankets, sit in their folding chairs and eat battenburg cake and drink luke warm tea from tartan flasks.
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What a load of old bollock`s it is the future,
Besides, it provides hours of ammusement for old folk and christians (or people fed up with looking at trains) who regularly flock there in their Allegros, Rovers and Dolomites to wrap themselves in blankets, sit in their folding chairs and eat battenburg cake and drink luke warm tea from tartan flasks.
keeps em off the roads for an hour or so
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I bloody hate windmills they look crap and they take 100 years to generate enough electricity to replace the energy it cost to make them in the first place. now where is my chain saw?
A little inaccurate statement.
For example, the one located at Swatham (sp?) cost £1.25 million to commision (including manufacture and installation). It will pay for itself in 7 years and has an effective life of 30 years. That leaves 23 years of technically pollution free power generation. It currently provides power for around 3000 homes.
Visually, I think wind turbines look good, and blight the landscape very little.
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For example, the one located at Swatham (sp?) cost £1.25 million to commision (including manufacture and installation). It will pay for itself in 7 years and has an effective life of 30 years. That leaves 23 years of technically pollution free power generation. It currently provides power for around 3000 homes.
OK, so anyone work out how many we would need to power all the homes, shops factories and businesses in the UK? Don't forget to factor in extra capacity to allow for downtime/repairs etc.
I think we'd need thousands and thousands of them wouldn't we? Now that WOULD be a blot on the landscape, not to mention a noise polution issue and a disaster for birdlife.
And what do we do on a calm day?
Andy 400se
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OK, so anyone work out how many we would need to power all the homes, shops factories and businesses in the UK? Don't forget to factor in extra capacity to allow for downtime/repairs etc.
I think we'd need thousands and thousands of them wouldn't we? Now that WOULD be a blot on the landscape, not to mention a noise polution issue and a disaster for birdlife.
And what do we do on a calm day?
Andy 400se
The point is that they are not intended to provide all our power needs , but they can certainly help reduce the amount of other power sources that we use
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