Deaths linked to Vaping, according to this article

[SultanOfSwing]

Anyone seen this? As a very regular user, it's quite concerning. Although 'underlying health issues' cant be ignored.

http://news.sky.com/story/sixth-person-dies-from-v...

[untakenname]

6 people out of how many millions who vape without issue?
The Tobacco industry spends billions in lobbying and PR, millions die due to smoking each year yet this scaremongering is what's being reported in the media.

Burnt coils can cause damage and also dodgy liquids that haven't been tested properly or use ingredients that are banned/dangerous.

[anonymous-user]

people are vaping stuff they have no clue about, and think it is healthier. The chemicals that go in aren't the stuff i would want in my lungs.

[SultanOfSwing]

untakenname said:

6 people out of how many millions who vape without issue?
The Tobacco industry spends billions in lobbying and PR, millions die due to smoking each year yet this scaremongering is what's being reported in the media.

Burnt coils can cause damage and also dodgy liquids that haven't been tested properly or use ingredients that are banned/dangerous.

Yes, when you consider the percentage of deaths to users it is minuscule. Hopefully though, given the fact that vaping is still relatively new, it isn't the start of some nasty discoveries.

At 37, albeit late, I'm taking health a lot more seriously, so articles like this do get my attention. Just need to remember to keep my sensible hat on.

[Stedman]

Thesprucegoose said:

people are vaping stuff they have no clue about, and think it is healthier. The chemicals that go in aren't the stuff i would want in my lungs.

Similar to smoking however many years ago

[anonymous-user]

Stedman said:

Similar to smoking however many years ago

60-70 years, yet people carried on. I think if you vape and then get ill/die you can't really blame anyone else.

[FN2TypeR]

[gregs656]

My impression is that a lot of this has happened after the explosion in nicotine salt devices like Juuls - this is what I would avoid.

[anonymous-user]

gregs656 said:

My impression is that a lot of this has happened after the explosion in nicotine salt devices like Juuls - this is what I would avoid.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1911614?query=featured_home

''Of the 41 patients who were extensively interviewed, 61% reported use of nicotine products, 80% reported use of THC products..

The most common THC product that was reported was marketed under the “Dank Vape” label (reported by 24 of 41 interviewed patients [59%..''

https://www.inverse.com/article/58581-dank-vapes

''Myron Ronay, the CEO of BelCosta Labs, a cannabis testing lab in California, tells Inverse that they often see black-market products that contain unsafe levels of myclobutanil — a fungicide.

When myclobutanil is heated, it releases toxic fumes, one of which is hydrogen cyanide. Small amounts of HCN are released when smoking cigarettes, but larger doses are lethal. HCN was a major component of Zyklon-B, the gas used in Nazi gas chambers. Unregulated products, like black-market Dank Vapes, have no one checking to see where that line is drawn.''

[gregs656]

I hadn't considered cannabis oils and waxes, but that would make sense timing-wise.

Something else to avoid.

[Prohibiting]

The best solution is not to smoke or vape.

Think of the health and money benefits.

[anonymous-user]

Prohibiting said:

The best solution is not to smoke or vape.

Think of the health and money benefits.

My god you're right! We should also tell heroin addicts that the best solution is not to take heroin, or tell alcoholics that the best solution is to just not drink! Problem solved

[Lannister902]

After vaping in my car for afew days, then seeing what's happened to the roof lining. The thick, sticky residue that's stuck onto it, and the state of the interior light/switch, it would be enough to put you off vaping.

It's a deathtrap.

[SultanOfSwing]

Lannister902 said:

After vaping in my car for afew days, then seeing what's happened to the roof lining. The thick, sticky residue that's stuck onto it, and the state of the interior light/switch, it would be enough to put you off vaping.

It's a deathtrap.

I've seen a few people say this, however I vape in my car every day pretty much, and there is no residue at all.

[anonymous-user]

It would be nice if i didnt have to see grownman sucking on a metal dildo everywhere i go, so maybe something good comes out of this.

[anonymous-user]

SultanOfSwing said:

I've seen a few people say this, however I vape in my car every day pretty much, and there is no residue at all.

As a vaper does that put you on a higher level than the scruffy, selfish, smelly barstewards who smoke as you can't drop dimps everywhere ?

(Only asking as yet again community emails flying about and someone kicking off again yesterday about the scruffy twunts, one guy mentioned he was hit on the head by a dimp thrown out of an office/apartment window this week)

[SultanOfSwing]

speedyguy said:

SultanOfSwing said:

I've seen a few people say this, however I vape in my car every day pretty much, and there is no residue at all.

As a vaper does that put you on a higher level than the scruffy, selfish, smelly barstewards who smoke as you can't drop dimps everywhere ?

(Only asking as yet again community emails flying about and someone kicking off again yesterday about the scruffy twunts, one guy mentioned he was hit on the head by a dimp thrown out of an office/apartment window this week)

What on earth are you on about and what does smokers who throw their cigarette ends around have to do with my comment or the fact that I use an e cigarette?

[SultanOfSwing]

Thesprucegoose said:

It would be nice if i didnt have to see grownman sucking on a metal dildo everywhere i go, so maybe something good comes out of this.

I think the fact that you see an e cigarette as a metal dildo says more about you than whoever is using one. There are lots of things in life people don't want to see, but hey ho, that's life.

[bazza white]

SultanOfSwing said:

Lannister902 said:

After vaping in my car for afew days, then seeing what's happened to the roof lining. The thick, sticky residue that's stuck onto it, and the state of the interior light/switch, it would be enough to put you off vaping.

It's a deathtrap.

I've seen a few people say this, however I vape in my car every day pretty much, and there is no residue at all.

Not even on the windows.

I vape mtl not direct (subohm) and even I get a residue on the windows.


I do wonder vaping has gone to far. A light vape to replace cigs not ideal but maybe your lungs stand a chance of breaking down the residue but vaping big liquid with each inhale cant be good.

[Zoon]

I actually think people are addicted more to vaping than they are smoking.
A guy in our local cannot put his down, it's like an automated process every five seconds.

But at least he's stopped smoking