70k to invest in a car for 12 months
70k to invest in a car for 12 months
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Osinjak

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5,453 posts

150 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Here’s the deal. Let’s say you have 70k and you’re a car nut. 1st option is to try and find an exotic car, run it for a year, put 10k miles on it but still be able to sell it for the same money you paid.

2nd option is buy a car, any car, hoik it in storage and make a reasonably tidy profit selling it 12 months later.

What would those cars be?

Monkeylegend

29,138 posts

260 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Sagaris and a Sagaris.

majorjoy

75 posts

98 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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996 GT3 would be my choice!

Wilmslowboy

4,761 posts

235 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Osinjak said:
Here’s the deal. Let’s say you have 70k and you’re a car nut. 1st option is to try and find an exotic car, run it for a year, put 10k miles on it but still be able to sell it for the same money you paid.

2nd option is buy a car, any car, hoik it in storage and make a reasonably tidy profit selling it 12 months later.

What would those cars be?
Almost anything classic 5 years ago, today almost nothing.

I reckon almost everything is valued lower today than it was 12 months ago, and unfortunately, the trajectory suggests they will be even lower next year.

What would you have bought a year ago, that you think would have made a tidy profit today?




matjk

1,112 posts

169 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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New Boxster GT4 if you could get one , the others are still over retail , of course you can’t buy one so it’s a mute point

Osinjak

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5,453 posts

150 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Wilmslowboy said:
What would you have bought a year ago, that you think would have made a tidy profit today?
Genuinely have no idea, I did toy with the idea of a Ferrari California for option 1 (but with less miles for 12 months) but can’t think of anything for option 2.

matjk

1,112 posts

169 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Changed my mind, I’d go for a £50 mot failure fit for the scrap yard and put £69500 of gold , euros or us$ in the boot , still be worth £50 and the boot contests will be worth more 🤣

MDMA .

10,682 posts

130 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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majorjoy said:
996 GT3 would be my choice!
He wants his money back or a profit.

can't remember

1,168 posts

157 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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BMW E30 M3. It's only going in one direction and would fit both your criteria. Would also be some of the best 10k of motoring you would ever experience.


williamp

20,380 posts

302 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Go away and join a property investment portfolio.

Cars exist to be driven and enjoyed. The "enthusiast investor" has ruined the hobby for the majorigy of enthusiasts. Just make sure you get mats & mud flaps in the deal...

Higgs boson

1,105 posts

182 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Late 70s / early 80s GTS?

Osinjak

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Sunday 15th September 2019
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can't remember said:
BMW E30 M3. It's only going in one direction and would fit both your criteria. Would also be some of the best 10k of motoring you would ever experience.
Interesting idea, prices seem to be all over the place though.

Cold

16,641 posts

119 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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matjk said:
New Boxster GT4 if you could get one , the others are still over retail , of course you can’t buy one so it’s a mute point
Fit a sports exhaust if it's a mute point of a car.

donkmeister

12,798 posts

129 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Multiple 320d's / MX5s on finance.

OP it's a standard "your investment might go up but is probably a bag of ste" situation. I have bought various cars over the years, the only one that showed any potential for investment was a relatively boring saloon, due to dumb luck. The interesting/rare cars, not so much.

That said, I reckon your best bet is to harness the recent EUR weakness (boo Brexit) and buy European then sell later when it's all different (boo Brexit again). Slim margins, youd be better off doing the currency markets.

Good luck with whatever you choose.

LooneyTunes

9,366 posts

187 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Braver man than me if you're looking at cars as an investment with the economy and brexit situation as it is.

If I had to spend that sort of money on cars as an investment I'd be tempted by 80s/90s kit, but I doubt you'd see a return in 12 months.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Perhaps not the drivers car, but you could find either a nice Pagoda SL or a slightly shabby 190 SL and lay it up / use it sparingly (in the summer) and I reckon you'll get some money back on the other side.

There not exactly going to go down in value, are they?

Another option is a BMW 3.0 CSI / CSL E9, people are cottoning on to these and are soaring in value.

Just mentioning CSL, there's also the M3 CSL and I think another year under its belt will add a bit more (than it admittably already has) to its value.


Wooda80

1,743 posts

104 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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I'd agree with the large number of posters who say that there is no car that you can guarantee will hold its value over 12 months.

But I'd also put forward that view that you could buy almost ANY make of car and run it for 12 months and either break even or make only a relatively small loss.

To do this you just need to remove your focus from which make and model to buy and refocus on buying the car at a very good price.

In the OP's case, find a car that is genuinely worth £80k today but who also has a very motivated seller and bid him £70k for it.

Could be for a number of reasons, not necessarily because the bailiffs are knocking, but his new car could have arrived and he's trying to beat the trade in offer, or the money is needed for a business opportunity. Those sellers are out there at all price levels, it's how dealers source some of their stock.

Some people will tell you to go away with various degrees of politeness it's true, but you arent in this to make friends. It does mean that you can't be too fussy about the spec of the car. If you really wanted a black one but the one in question is only very, very dark grey, or even if it's a convertible but you really wanted a coupe, for example.

Having bought it for £10000 behind the current advertised price, in 12 months time you may still be able to justify advertising it for the same price that you paid for it. Of course you then have to find a buyer, which may or may not be easy, but then that's always the way!

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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what about running costs and potential stuff going wrong?

Mine suggestion would be a R8, 1st gen.

av185

20,464 posts

156 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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981 Spyder.

718 Spyder £13k more with potential 10% hard Brexit surcharge making it potentially a £90k + car.

Lukewarm reception to the more muted gpf filtered 718 and more cars this time over 227 981s will mean the older car will rise in value.

The other one is the 991. Carrera T. Great package and last of the true narrow bodied pre filtered Carreras. Drives and sounds like the 997.1 Carrera S. Sold mine to make way for another car but with only 176 'manuels' in the UK the right lightweight spec cars are a no brainer investment wise.

driving

Leins

10,412 posts

177 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Ay caramba said:
Just mentioning CSL, there's also the M3 CSL and I think another year under its belt will add a bit more (than it admittably already has) to its value.
CSL is probably the only car I’ve owned that I could make a reasonable claim to have broken even on after running costs. In saying that, I sold it in late 2015, and I don’t believe even asking prices have changed much since then, and I suspect selling prices are lower. I see no reason to suggest they would increase over the next year either

Great cars though, and I’d highly recommend owning one for a while, but can also run up big enough bills when things need sorting