Whats the reasons for the huge rise in robberies?

[Pastor Of Muppets]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49745113

Being reported that the main reasons are cuts in Policing and the wider use of Smartphones. I think there is a lot more to it than that, how do the folks of NP&E view it?.

[rscott]

Pastor Of Muppets said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49745113

Being reported that the main reasons are cuts in Policing and the wider use of Smartphones. I think there is a lot more to it than that, how do the folks of NP&E view it?.

I'd say they're pretty reasonable reasons. People are carrying around pocket sized items worth £1k or more, often paying far more attention to those devices than their surroundings.
Fewer police on the streets means more opportunities to carry out robberies too.

[crankedup]

Risk v Reward.

[CzechItOut]

rscott said:

I'd say they're pretty reasonable reasons. People are carrying around pocket sized items worth £1k or more, often paying far more attention to those devices than their surroundings.
Fewer police on the streets means more opportunities to carry out robberies too.

Presumably there are smartphones in France, Denmark, Germany and Netherlands, who have all experienced a 15%+ fall in robberies, compared to a 33% rise in England and Wales?

[R Mutt]

Could do with more coppers on the street but moped gangs are a new class of crime and no one is backing the case for the Met to go around on motorbikes. Also less likely to get DNA or for it to be on UK records, although this recently doesn't seem to matter in burglaries where the police won't bother investigating.

Not sure smartphones matter either as I've seen more examples of people targeted for watches lately.

[WCZ]

crankedup said:

Risk v Reward.

this, there's no risk of being caught

[TwistingMyMelon]

The stuff that's stolen is worth a lot and very easy to sell on

I see people walking the streets wearing and holding gear thats worth more than the contents of half my house. All of it can be fenced by anyone with Facebook /Instagram - you dont need the contacts anymore just a free phone app

Ive always been discreet and careful with anything decent ive had, the only exception was a nice looking racing bike I had, it looked the part (even though it only cost me £400). I would never leave it locked up anywhere but even so I was nearly mugged of it twice!! Once 11am @ Reading Station on a Saturday morning ( I managed to ride/run away) and the second time on a Reading housing estate (I punched them with my tools this time)

I think if Police could have their hands freed from the endless mental health issues they deal with (due to govenmnet cuts) and we developed a better system in dealing with the serial offenders each estate/town has then that would be a start.

For example where i live has a slight "reputation" but it seems to be down to a one man (and one armed) crimewave that has been blighting the town for 20 years, As soon as he is released from prison he is back thieving, most of it at a basic level. He wastes so so so much of police time, but he only ever goes away for a few months and then back out again . If we could deal with all the repeat offenders that blight every town that would be a start.

Edited by TwistingMyMelon on Thursday 19th September 11:44

[valiant]

Less coppers = more crime.

Simple.

[JuniorD]

It's the zeitgeist.

[Evolved]

WCZ said:

crankedup said:

Risk v Reward.

this, there's no risk of being caught

And if they are, a slap on the wrist and off they go.

[Cantaloupe]

Immigrants and foreign students shirley ?

[R Mutt]

Presumably why only local and right of centre outlets running with this one

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2019/09/...

[rscott]

CzechItOut said:

rscott said:

I'd say they're pretty reasonable reasons. People are carrying around pocket sized items worth £1k or more, often paying far more attention to those devices than their surroundings.
Fewer police on the streets means more opportunities to carry out robberies too.

Presumably there are smartphones in France, Denmark, Germany and Netherlands, who have all experienced a 15%+ fall in robberies, compared to a 33% rise in England and Wales?

According to the link posted by the OP, we have the highest smartphone usage in Europe. Whether we also have the largest reduction in police numbers is unknown.

[Pesty]

Working is hard. You have to get up, get st off your boss.

Why do that when you can hang with your soldiers have fun take other peoples stuff, stab people and wish washy mealy mouth liberals will still fight your corner if you ever get caught which is unlikely.

Working is for fools.

[TheK1981]

My ex works for one of the mobile phone insurance companies, they used to believe people who said the phone was lost/stolen as long as it was blocked by the phone company, now they need a crime reference number.

So could it just be more people are reporting thefts?

[R Mutt]

TheK1981 said:

My ex works for one of the mobile phone insurance companies, they used to believe people who said the phone was lost/stolen as long as it was blocked by the phone company, now they need a crime reference number.

So could it just be more people are reporting thefts?

That has been a requirement for at least 10 years.

[rscott]

R Mutt said:

Presumably why only local and right of centre outlets running with this one

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2019/09/...

It includes a clip from the BBC Crimewatch Roadshow programme. Are you saying the BBC are right of centre now?

[R Mutt]

rscott said:

R Mutt said:

Presumably why only local and right of centre outlets running with this one

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2019/09/...

It includes a clip from the BBC Crimewatch Roadshow programme. Are you saying the BBC are right of centre now?

They've run it as a local interest piece. That will be the accusations of the papers who have picked up on it.

[Mazinbrum]

Brexit.

[rxe]

You'd need to dig into the figures to see what is really happening - "robbery" is a broad church of offences.

On the smartphones, my European comparison would be Spain. UK people are vastly more likely to be wandering around looking at a phone and paying attention to nothing else. UK people seem to have vastly more expensive handsets than Spaniards - everyone there (no matter how affluent) seems to have a battered Android, which isn't worth nicking. My friends son got mugged a few months ago - a 15 year old wandering around with an iPhoneXR, unsurprising got it lifted.

Same with cars - I would guess more Golf Rs get nicked in the UK than in Spain, because I've never seen one in Spain.

At a guess I would say housebreaking is in decline - its hard work, for poor rewards in the main.