Penalty notice in a Carpark
Penalty notice in a Carpark
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smashy

Original Poster:

3,108 posts

187 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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Hi all

Penalty notice from a Falmouth car park. They are saying I didnt pay fully for time there.

Luckily I found the ticket they say I entered at 2pm fair enough but my ticket shows 2.03.....the 3 minutes it took to get my change from boot walk to pay meter wait while people in front messed about inputting reg and finding change.....I have appealed but its outrageous surely there is a period of grace in getting the ticket

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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What'e the times they are saying, what's the times you are saying?

smashy

Original Poster:

3,108 posts

187 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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They said I entered at 2pm fair enough but it took me 3 minutes to queue and pay for a ticket which says 2.03 on it.I left well before expiry time

pavarotti1980

6,341 posts

113 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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It's an anpr operated car park so taking the time you entered car park not when you parked or when you purchased ticket. Appeal as registered keeper and not driver that the have not given you the grace period allowed to park up and then purchase ticket.

If they reject it you will get a popla code. Worth posting on Pepipoo too as there will be many disgruntled people in the same boat

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

186 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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Can you post up the correspondence (remove personal data)?

smashy

Original Poster:

3,108 posts

187 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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pavarotti1980 said:
It's an anpr operated car park so taking the time you entered car park not when you parked or when you purchased ticket. Appeal as registered keeper and not driver that the have not given you the grace period allowed to park up and then purchase ticket.

If they reject it you will get a popla code. Worth posting on Pepipoo too as there will be many disgruntled people in the same boat
Thanks Pavarotti1980..I will really fight this one hoping its a computer says no issue If you get me..Cheers

pavarotti1980

6,341 posts

113 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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smashy said:
Thanks Pavarotti1980..I will really fight this one hoping its a computer says no issue If you get me..Cheers
Yeah it will.be automated and nothing will be checked prior to them sending out PCN. This is their only income stream so not in their interests to do so

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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pavarotti1980 said:
It's an anpr operated car park so taking the time you entered car park not when you parked or when you purchased ticket. Appeal as registered keeper and not driver that the have not given you the grace period allowed to park up and then purchase ticket.

If they reject it you will get a popla code. Worth posting on Pepipoo too as there will be many disgruntled people in the same boat
Thread title is Penalty change not Parking charge scratchchin.

Which one is correct ?.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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smashy said:
They said I entered at 2pm fair enough but it took me 3 minutes to queue and pay for a ticket which says 2.03 on it.I left well before expiry time
confused

You entered 2.00pm
You paid at 2.03pm
You paid for how long?
You left at what time?

smashy

Original Poster:

3,108 posts

187 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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vonhosen said:
confused

You entered 2.00pm
You paid at 2.03pm
You paid for how long?
You left at what time?
Leaving is not the issue ,I paid till 1703 and left at 1557 they are having me for 3 minutes from the time I entered to the time I bought my ticket ......doing my google research they are one scummy company 100s of 1 star reviews trying it on ...such as this https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/fa...

kowalski655

15,217 posts

172 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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It's physically impossible to pay at the same time you enter! It's established law that finding a spot and parking up isn't "parking"(it was a Devon or Cornwall car park case IIRC)
Appeal and ask for a POPLA code

pavarotti1980

6,341 posts

113 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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speedyguy said:
Thread title is Penalty change not Parking charge scratchchin.

Which one is correct ?.
Parking charge. Operated by a private parking company. Councils can't use anpr for parking enforcement

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Saturday 21st September 21:06

Silverage

2,414 posts

159 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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That’s outrageous logic. Are they ticketing everyone who enters the car park? Three minutes - how fast do they expect you to park up and buy a ticket?

Thinking about it though, isn’t it usually just the expiry time shown on a parking ticket? How are they matching the time you entered with the time you bought the ticket? Did you have to input your reg on the ticket machine?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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smashy said:
vonhosen said:
confused

You entered 2.00pm
You paid at 2.03pm
You paid for how long?
You left at what time?
Leaving is not the issue ,I paid till 1703 and left at 1557 they are having me for 3 minutes from the time I entered to the time I bought my ticket ......doing my google research they are one scummy company 100s of 1 star reviews trying it on ...such as this https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/fa...
They're off their heads!

rainmakerraw

1,243 posts

155 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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vonhosen said:
smashy said:
vonhosen said:
confused

You entered 2.00pm
You paid at 2.03pm
You paid for how long?
You left at what time?
Leaving is not the issue ,I paid till 1703 and left at 1557 they are having me for 3 minutes from the time I entered to the time I bought my ticket ......doing my google research they are one scummy company 100s of 1 star reviews trying it on ...such as this https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/fa...
They're off their heads!
Indeed. OP, tell them to knock the 3 mins off the pro rata refund they owe you for 15:57 - 17:03. hehe

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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Out of curiosity which Falmouth car park?
The queuing for the pay machines - the ones that are working that is - at the ones by the Maritime museum can be a PITA in the summer & that's after driving round in circles waiting for a space! So I'm not surprised that one of those would take in excess of 3 minutes after entry.
Hope your appeal is successful.

smashy

Original Poster:

3,108 posts

187 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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Silverage said:
That’s outrageous logic. Are they ticketing everyone who enters the car park? Three minutes - how fast do they expect you to park up and buy a ticket?

Thinking about it though, isn’t it usually just the expiry time shown on a parking ticket? How are they matching the time you entered with the time you bought the ticket? Did you have to input your reg on the ticket machine?
....Hi im lucky I cant believe I have my ticket it says 1403 on it..they say I entered at 1400..Most re google havent and this bunch of conmen at Maritime carpark Falmouth are hoping for that fact

S11Steve

6,389 posts

213 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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Custom House Quay?

Standard practice of theirs, well documented, but they won't pursue these through court as the land is covered by bye-laws. They can't enforce the same keeper liability as "normal" parking charges.

Strictly speaking, it is a penalty.


pavarotti1980

6,341 posts

113 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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S11Steve said:
Custom House Quay?

Standard practice of theirs, well documented, but they won't pursue these through court as the land is covered by bye-laws. They can't enforce the same keeper liability as "normal" parking charges.

Strictly speaking, it is a penalty.
Same clusterfk scenario as the airport's. Bribery in lieu of prosecution for byelaw offence

smashy

Original Poster:

3,108 posts

187 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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S11Steve said:
Custom House Quay?

Standard practice of theirs, well documented, but they won't pursue these through court as the land is covered by bye-laws. They can't enforce the same keeper liability as "normal" parking charges.

Strictly speaking, it is a penalty.
Hi not being funny how can it be a penalty?...3 minutes to drive in park get out go to the paystation wait behind others who are in putting with credit cards trying to remember their forgotten numberplate...messing about with credit cards and change etc ...3 minutes...no they are conmen hoping you have lost your ticket ..Premier Park is the name of this mob.....just makesure you park on double yellows outside and then go and get your ticket or thoughtform it as you drive in......sickened me to be honest scamming filth

Edited by smashy on Sunday 22 September 11:46