UKSC: Rule of Law eleven, unaccountablility nil.
UKSC: Rule of Law eleven, unaccountablility nil.
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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All constitutional lawyers be like -


anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Apols for bod spuleng in thread title. Because Margaritas.

Red 4

10,744 posts

216 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
Apols for bod spuleng in thread title. Because Margaritas.
An yer secund poste.

Judgment ?

Iddiott.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Judgment and judgement are both in current use, innit.

BTW, the foundation for today's ruling is the Case of Proclamations from 1610. "... the King* hath no prerogative, but that which the law of the land allows him."

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/KB/1610/J22.h...

* Nowadays, for King read PM.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 24th September 11:32

Red 4

10,744 posts

216 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
Judgment and judgement are both in current use, innit.
Fair enough.

I won't judg you by your preferred speeling.

The Don of Croy

6,445 posts

188 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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What time today does Gina Miller present herself at Buck House for her investiture as Quoon?

anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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First decree: that blonde mop would look good on a spike on Traitor's Gate!


Amateurish

8,279 posts

251 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Red 4 said:
An yer secund poste.

Judgment ?

Iddiott.
Judgment is correct - see the link!

"https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2019-0192-judgment.pdf"

sparkyhx

4,200 posts

233 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
thats a slog, but suprising clear for the layman

anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Most good judgments, most good legal arguments, and all good legal documents are presented in clear language. Only bad judges and bad lawyers write or argue in old fashioned or confusing language.

Mr.Chips

1,239 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Good to have you back BV wavey

defblade

8,060 posts

242 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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sparkyhx said:
Breadvan72 said:
thats a slog, but suprising clear for the layman
Yes

Mr.Chips said:
Good to have you back BV wavey
And yes smile

Roger Irrelevant

3,389 posts

142 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
Most good judgments, most good legal arguments, and all good legal documents are presented in clear language. Only bad judges and bad lawyers write or argue in old fashioned or confusing language.
Absolutely. And this is a key reason why, particularly in the current case, it really gets on my tits when news outlets see the need to publish 'vox pops' expressing outrage at the judgment when it's a virtual certainty that said pops haven't read the judgment or even the summary, haven't made any effort to understand the relevant law or reasoning behind the judgment, and basically haven't got a clue what they're blathering on about. If you disagree with the unanimous judgment of eleven of the 12 most senior judges in the UK then that's fine, but their judgment is published in considerable detail so at least give us a bit of a clue as to which bits of it you think they got wrong and why.

I mean, if some well-respected engineers did a feasibility study into Boris Johnson's Scotland-Ireland bridge and concluded that it would be horrendously difficult, would take decades and cost many times the £15bn estimate that was bandied about, would the media feel that any useful purpose was served by asking Brenda Smethwick, 62, a retired dinnerlady from Clitheroe who happened to be wandering about at the same time as the roving reporter, whether she agreed with the engineers?

BertBert

21,265 posts

240 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Roger Irrelevant said:
I mean, if some well-respected engineers did a feasibility study into Boris Johnson's Scotland-Ireland bridge and concluded that it would be horrendously difficult, would take decades and cost many times the £15bn estimate that was bandied about, would the media feel that any useful purpose was served by asking Brenda Smethwick, 62, a retired dinnerlady from Clitheroe who happened to be wandering about at the same time as the roving reporter, whether she agreed with the engineers?
Hey, watch what you are saying. I know Brenda and she's a pretty bright cookie.

havoc

33,372 posts

264 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Roger Irrelevant said:
I mean, if some well-respected engineers did a feasibility study into Boris Johnson's Scotland-Ireland bridge and concluded that it would be horrendously difficult, would take decades and cost many times the £15bn estimate that was bandied about, would the media feel that any useful purpose was served by asking Brenda Smethwick, 62, a retired dinnerlady from Clitheroe who happened to be wandering about at the same time as the roving reporter, whether she agreed with the engineers?
But but but... :spluttered outrage:

"The public are sick of experts"

"The public have spoken"

"We are fulfilling the will of the people"



...etc. etc. - amazing how often demagogues whip the masses up into a froth, then use 'the people' as an excuse for all sorts of malfesance...

Lexington59

974 posts

94 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Utterly sickening is the contempt the elite remoaner judges have for (a) the 1689 bill of rights; and (b) the voting public.

That this goes so many levels far beyond outrageous is a given. Hang them all.


anonymous-user

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83 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Unless I am due a whooshing parrot....

Do explain! Give references, please. We look forward to your Masterclass in Constitutional law, based no doubt on extensive study, qualifications, and experience.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 28th September 2019
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Yes of course. But what is interesting here is that it was such a foregone conclusion. By those that “know”. ...

Brexit no deal Masterplan perhaps? Surely not.

Dammit

3,816 posts

237 months

Saturday 28th September 2019
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Every lawyer and barrister that I know had no idea how it was going to go - most of them thought the government would win.

The commentators (DAG etc) also couldn't call it.

I'd therefore say that it was absolutely not known in advance what was going to be the result.