VW won't settle Dieselgate claims for German Customers
VW won't settle Dieselgate claims for German Customers
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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Not sure if the right place so please move if needed.

Interesting story on bbc news website, apparently VW don't want to settle claims against them from their own domestic market. Considering the grief VAG owners here get with all sorts of excuses to avoid claims, etc it isn't just us in the UK that get shafted..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49878247


mike-v2tmf

889 posts

108 months

Tuesday 1st October 2019
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Get Greta Thunberg on the case........give the angry brat something to bleat about

Exige77

6,523 posts

220 months

Tuesday 1st October 2019
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VW are not settling this mass case but have settled many individual cases with NDAs during last few months.

My friend is a lawyer in Germany who is now specialising in this and has around 50 private settlements so far. (Updated, 107 so far)

Clients are getting purchase price (what they actually paid and not list) plus 50%. Allegedly smile

He’s also started several private cases against Mercedes re Vito vans.






Edited by Exige77 on Tuesday 1st October 10:46


Edited by Exige77 on Tuesday 1st October 10:47

Exige77

6,523 posts

220 months

Tuesday 1st October 2019
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anonymous said:
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Sure he hadn’t become a figure off fun and damage a noble cause by 16.

mike-v2tmf

889 posts

108 months

Tuesday 1st October 2019
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anonymous said:
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It was so long ago I dont remember biggrin But I was serving an apprenticeship and earning a living

Dave Hedgehog

16,332 posts

233 months

Tuesday 1st October 2019
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anonymous said:
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only in the minds of the knuckle dragging DM readers and master oaf clarkson, and trump of course


Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Tuesday 1st October 2019
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Exige77 said:
VW are not settling this mass case but have settled many individual cases with NDAs during last few months.

My friend is a lawyer in Germany who is now specialising in this and has around 50 private settlements so far. (Updated, 107 so far)

Clients are getting purchase price (what they actually paid and not list) plus 50%. Allegedly smile
I wonder how that level of settlement is reached. It seems to imply people would have never bought a VW if the truth were known, and presumably they still had the vehicle so had resale value of it as well.

Derek Smith

49,798 posts

277 months

Tuesday 1st October 2019
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My the engine in my 350 SLK stopped working due to a known fault, this at about 65k. I lost about £7,000. Mercedes were very helpful in telling me they did not want to know immediately.

It was the balance shaft sprocket, made of sintered metal to save a couple of pence. And people moan at TVR.


hutchst

3,727 posts

125 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Exige77 said:
VW are not settling this mass case but have settled many individual cases with NDAs during last few months.

My friend is a lawyer in Germany who is now specialising in this and has around 50 private settlements so far. (Updated, 107 so far)

Clients are getting purchase price (what they actually paid and not list) plus 50%. Allegedly smile

He’s also started several private cases against Mercedes re Vito vans.






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Edited by Exige77 on Tuesday 1st October 10:47
So did this German lawyer Non Disclose the names and addresses of the people receiving the settlements to you to then Non Disclose them all over the internet as well, or did he just Non Disclose the number of Non Disclosable agreements and the Non Disclosable amounts to you?

Perhaps he doesn't want to be a lawyer any more.

Exige77

6,523 posts

220 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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hutchst said:
Exige77 said:
VW are not settling this mass case but have settled many individual cases with NDAs during last few months.

My friend is a lawyer in Germany who is now specialising in this and has around 50 private settlements so far. (Updated, 107 so far)

Clients are getting purchase price (what they actually paid and not list) plus 50%. Allegedly smile

He’s also started several private cases against Mercedes re Vito vans.






Edited by Exige77 on Tuesday 1st October 10:46


Edited by Exige77 on Tuesday 1st October 10:47
So did this German lawyer Non Disclose the names and addresses of the people receiving the settlements to you to then Non Disclose them all over the internet as well, or did he just Non Disclose the number of Non Disclosable agreements and the Non Disclosable amounts to you?

Perhaps he doesn't want to be a lawyer any more.
Don’t think he’s disclosed any names but the offers where made and negotiated before the NDAs where signed.

He is a bit of a maverick lawyer and is know locally as the one man army.

A regular pita to many large companies.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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anonymous said:
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I didn't throw tantrums in public about global warming and flying, then sail a yacht to my destination claiming its greener than flying while some poor crew are flown to my destination to sail the same yacht back to were it started!

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Exige77 said:
VW are not settling this mass case but have settled many individual cases with NDAs during last few months.

My friend is a lawyer in Germany who is now specialising in this and has around 50 private settlements so far. (Updated, 107 so far)

Clients are getting purchase price (what they actually paid and not list) plus 50%. Allegedly smile

He’s also started several private cases against Mercedes re Vito vans.






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Edited by Exige77 on Tuesday 1st October 10:47
What you have to realise in VW is Germany they are so dam big the Germans can't afford them to fail.

Hole towns relay on VW and Pension Investment funds hence why VW have been more or less immune from prosecution.

They go after a few of the staff, but VW must stand or it will hurt the Germans big style.

martinbiz

3,699 posts

174 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Chrisgr31 said:
I wonder how that level of settlement is reached. It seems to imply people would have never bought a VW if the truth were known, and presumably they still had the vehicle so had resale value of it as well.
I believe the reported offer was for VW to purchase the cars back at purchase price + 50% in full a settlement to negate any further action, so the car would be returned to VW not left with the customer to sell on

hutchst

3,727 posts

125 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Reported?

DJMC

3,605 posts

132 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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Would a fine of €85bn scupper VAG?

I'm one of the UK class action members. 2012 Audi A3 2.0tdi.

Just had an update from Slater & Gordon including this podcast (2nd one down): https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/podcast/

There are 8.5m affected owners in the EU. If each were to receive similar to the US claimants, $5,000 - $10,000, that could mean up to €85,000,000,000 being paid out.

They only paid $15bn in the US law suit.

I think that level of fine would see an end to Audi, VW, Porsche, Seat, Škoda, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, Ducati etc.
No great loss eh?

guitarcarfanatic

1,987 posts

164 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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DJMC said:
Would a fine of €85bn scupper VAG?

I'm one of the UK class action members. 2012 Audi A3 2.0tdi.

Just had an update from Slater & Gordon including this podcast (2nd one down): https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/podcast/

There are 8.5m affected owners in the EU. If each were to receive similar to the US claimants, $5,000 - $10,000, that could mean up to €85,000,000,000 being paid out.

They only paid $15bn in the US law suit.

I think that level of fine would see an end to Audi, VW, Porsche, Seat, Škoda, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, Ducati etc.
No great loss eh?
I trust you read all the terms and conditions imposed by Slater and Gordon before signing up? There were certain circumstances where you could end up being liable for legal costs!

IMO, this lawsuit won't go anywhere. VAG bring too much money into all European economies through both manufacturing and sales.


surveyor_101

5,069 posts

208 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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guitarcarfanatic said:
I trust you read all the terms and conditions imposed by Slater and Gordon before signing up? There were certain circumstances where you could end up being liable for legal costs!

IMO, this lawsuit won't go anywhere. VAG bring too much money into all European economies through both manufacturing and sales.
There lie the issue, VAG have been allowed to buy all those brands and are so bl**dy big, that coupled with the Krauts being the biggest payers after us inot the EU means they seem immune to any real sanctions in light of this corporate deception that has no doubt damaged the environment and I belief shorted millions of peoples lives.

I point bank refuse to order a new vehicle from any of these brands now! I had Audi's before and got treated like crap by their service department as well.

Germans never pay their debts just look at ww2

donkmeister

12,893 posts

129 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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Perhaps VAG should be fined massively in the UK to offset the lost VED, increased medical costs etc. Personally I don't care if VAG goes down the drain, sauce/goose/gander/BMW/Rover etc.

R Mutt

5,896 posts

101 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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Something for anti-capitalist remainers to have a look at.

Initforthemoney

743 posts

173 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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surveyor_101 said:
Germans never pay their debts just look at ww2
Wow.