Royal Shakespeare Stops Support From BP
Royal Shakespeare Stops Support From BP
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The Mad Monk

Original Poster:

11,141 posts

141 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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The Royal Shakespeare Company has decided not to accept any more money from oil giant BP because it alleges something or the other....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-4990...

This is madness!

Why were BP giving them money in the first place - and not just RSC, the whole of the opera, ballet, theatre world gets generous subsidies from government, commerce and industry. Why?

Why? Why should I pay extra on my fuel so that someone can get a reduced price seat in a theatre. They don't subsidise anything that I do, why should I subsidise what they do.

These activities should stand on their own feet, or fail. That's the way the world works. Let the Devil take the hindmost.

Nurse!

Bibbs

3,747 posts

234 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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bbc said:
"Young people are now saying clearly to us that the BP sponsorship is putting a barrier between them and their wish to engage with the RSC," it said.

BP has subsidised the Stratford-upon-Avon-based theatre company's £5 ticket scheme for 16 to 25-year-olds.
Can't they just pay full price as a protest? I'm sure that they'll not get 10k kids a year through, that BP was subsidising.

The Mad Monk

Original Poster:

11,141 posts

141 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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Bibbs said:
Can't they just pay full price as a protest?
Yes, why not?

That would really punish them.

rscott

17,079 posts

215 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
The Royal Shakespeare Company has decided not to accept any more money from oil giant BP because it alleges something or the other....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-4990...

This is madness!

Why were BP giving them money in the first place - and not just RSC, the whole of the opera, ballet, theatre world gets generous subsidies from government, commerce and industry. Why?

Why? Why should I pay extra on my fuel so that someone can get a reduced price seat in a theatre. They don't subsidise anything that I do, why should I subsidise what they do.

These activities should stand on their own feet, or fail. That's the way the world works. Let the Devil take the hindmost.

Nurse!
I assume you think football clubs shouldn't have sponsors either?

Bussolini

11,613 posts

109 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
The Royal Shakespeare Company has decided not to accept any more money from oil giant BP because it alleges something or the other....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-4990...

This is madness!

Why were BP giving them money in the first place - and not just RSC, the whole of the opera, ballet, theatre world gets generous subsidies from government, commerce and industry. Why?

Why? Why should I pay extra on my fuel so that someone can get a reduced price seat in a theatre. They don't subsidise anything that I do, why should I subsidise what they do.

These activities should stand on their own feet, or fail. That's the way the world works. Let the Devil take the hindmost.

Nurse!
You ever heard of the concept of marketing?

R Mutt

5,896 posts

96 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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This is the greatest indicator of inequality. Those bemoaning inequality choosing to pay the premium for the morally superior, full virtue, guilt free ticket or product. Unassuming they put their money where their mouth is.

They should be the one subsidising the cheaper tickets. The sort of idiots who talk about those on minimum wage and capitalism but get Delieroo from an illegal worker on a moped because they can't be bothered to get to a restaurant and are too good for their local takeaway. Tax these excesses not earnings.

Edited by R Mutt on Thursday 3rd October 09:34

sjg

7,651 posts

289 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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How do you feel about the Red Bull Air Race, or the Renault F1 team?

rxe

6,700 posts

127 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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As a BP shareholder, I would support not paying the RSC money and as a result they can increase the dividend a scratch.

I’ve never met anyone who applies more criteria than “price” and “location” to buying fuel.

The Mad Monk

Original Poster:

11,141 posts

141 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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sjg said:
How do you feel about the Red Bull Air Race, or the Renault F1 team?
In the examples of the Red bull air race or Renault F1, it is obvious who the sponsor is. I do not give money to Red Bull, or Renault.

I hadn't realised that BP were giving money from my fuel payment to the RSC. But, it has now stopped.

If I know who is giving money, or support to whom, them I have the option of not supporting that company or organisation

You refer to football clubs, that is simply a form of advertising. No?

Bussolini

11,613 posts

109 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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rxe said:
As a BP shareholder, I would support not paying the RSC money and as a result they can increase the dividend a scratch.

I’ve never met anyone who applies more criteria than “price” and “location” to buying fuel.
Really? Find any thread on here talking about high octane fuel and you will find someone claiming they only ever fill their car with Shell V Power or w/e.

Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

15,078 posts

193 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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sjg said:
How do you feel about the Red Bull Air Race?
Very sad that it has ended cry

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

252 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
The Royal Shakespeare Company has decided not to accept any more money from oil giant BP because it alleges something or the other....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-4990...

This is madness!

Why were BP giving them money in the first place - and not just RSC, the whole of the opera, ballet, theatre world gets generous subsidies from government, commerce and industry. Why?

Why? Why should I pay extra on my fuel so that someone can get a reduced price seat in a theatre. They don't subsidise anything that I do, why should I subsidise what they do.

These activities should stand on their own feet, or fail. That's the way the world works. Let the Devil take the hindmost.

Nurse!
Maybe they did it because, you know, someone at BP thought it would be a nice idea. Maybe show that these industry giants aren't all evil. Maybe someone at BP enjoys Shakespeare and couldn't afford to go when they were young. Thought, hell, I missed out, why not give someone else who is young a chance now I have the means to do it.

Or maybe BP just thought it would be good for the brand, even though they are probably an 'evil' oil giant.

Whatever the reasoning, the muppet students have shot themselves in the foot here. Do they really think that BP will change based on them not allowing them to give their money away?

Classic hypocritical climate change nancy action. Probably complained about BP on their Apple phone that was assembled by a poor kid in China, whilst munching on a 'smashed' avocado that was shipped half way around the world last week. wkers.

rscott

17,079 posts

215 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
sjg said:
How do you feel about the Red Bull Air Race, or the Renault F1 team?
In the examples of the Red bull air race or Renault F1, it is obvious who the sponsor is. I do not give money to Red Bull, or Renault.

I hadn't realised that BP were giving money from my fuel payment to the RSC. But, it has now stopped.

If I know who is giving money, or support to whom, them I have the option of not supporting that company or organisation

You refer to football clubs, that is simply a form of advertising. No?
If you buy BP fuel then you're still funding the British Museum, the National Portrait Gallery and the Royal Opera House. You also contributed to Hull's City Of Culture events in 2017 and helped fund the Mariinsky Theatre tour of the UK.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
Why? Why should I pay extra on my fuel so that someone can get a reduced price seat in a theatre.
Why do you think this makes you pay extra on your fuel?




anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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OP displays as much faux outrage as the students.

chrispmartha

22,140 posts

153 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
These activities should stand on their own feet, or fail. That's the way the world works.
It's really not.

chrispmartha

22,140 posts

153 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
sjg said:
How do you feel about the Red Bull Air Race, or the Renault F1 team?
In the examples of the Red bull air race or Renault F1, it is obvious who the sponsor is. I do not give money to Red Bull, or Renault.

I hadn't realised that BP were giving money from my fuel payment to the RSC. But, it has now stopped.

If I know who is giving money, or support to whom, them I have the option of not supporting that company or organisation

You refer to football clubs, that is simply a form of advertising. No?
https://www.bp.com/en_gb/united-kingdom/home/community/connecting-through-arts-and-culture.html


Maybe don't click on the link, it might upset you.


funkyrobot

18,789 posts

252 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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chrispmartha said:
The Mad Monk said:
sjg said:
How do you feel about the Red Bull Air Race, or the Renault F1 team?
In the examples of the Red bull air race or Renault F1, it is obvious who the sponsor is. I do not give money to Red Bull, or Renault.

I hadn't realised that BP were giving money from my fuel payment to the RSC. But, it has now stopped.

If I know who is giving money, or support to whom, them I have the option of not supporting that company or organisation

You refer to football clubs, that is simply a form of advertising. No?
https://www.bp.com/en_gb/united-kingdom/home/commu...


Maybe don't click on the link, it might upset you.

Not-The-Messiah

3,648 posts

105 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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funkyrobot said:
Maybe they did it because, you know, someone at BP thought it would be a nice idea. Maybe show that these industry giants aren't all evil. Maybe someone at BP enjoys Shakespeare and couldn't afford to go when they were young. Thought, hell, I missed out, why not give someone else who is young a chance now I have the means to do it.

Or maybe BP just thought it would be good for the brand, even though they are probably an 'evil' oil giant.

Whatever the reasoning, the muppet students have shot themselves in the foot here. Do they really think that BP will change based on them not allowing them to give their money away?

Classic hypocritical climate change nancy action. Probably complained about BP on their Apple phone that was assembled by a poor kid in China, whilst munching on a 'smashed' avocado that was shipped half way around the world last week. wkers.
This ^
It might just be go old philanthropist behaviour. Sadly it's seen less and less because of big government and this idea that the government can far better spend your money and should be the ones who decide where your money goes. So people think I've paid my tax I've done my bit I will keep the rest thanks. There is no real person investment a feeling that your money is going to something good.

greygoose

9,433 posts

219 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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djstevec said:
OP displays as much faux outrage as the students.
Yes completely upset about something he did not know about until it was over.