UR-CAH Antonov AN-12 Crash
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RobbyJ

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Saturday 5th October 2019
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http://avherald.com/h?article=4cd99477&opt=0

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49931753

Sad news, a plane that I’ve listened to flying over several times before and had the pleasure of watching it lumber into the air out of Bucharest a few year ago.

Initial reports suggest fuel starvation and looking at the replay of its flight on FR24 it looked pretty slow even for an AN12.

RIP to the crew.

hammo19

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220 months

Saturday 5th October 2019
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Yes very sad. Often tracked this AN12 on FR24.

RobbyJ

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Saturday 5th October 2019
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This is interesting if true, both aircraft were ferried back yesterday from Liverpool(UK):

Since this morning Ukraine Air Alliance is no longer listed in EASA's list of approved Third Country Operators (TCO) and is therefore no longer permited to enter European Airspace.

All aircraft (i.e. UR-CZZ and UR-CNT) have been ferried or are being ferried back to base in Chernivtsi, Ukraine.


It is true, I just checked!

https://www.easa.europa.eu/download/tco-lists/TCO%...


Edited by RobbyJ on Saturday 5th October 14:15

eldar

24,902 posts

220 months

Saturday 5th October 2019
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Running out of fuel? It that credible these days, I thought margins and projections were accurate enough to stop this sort of risk?

2fast748

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219 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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RobbyJ said:
This is interesting if true, both aircraft were ferried back yesterday from Liverpool(UK):

Since this morning Ukraine Air Alliance is no longer listed in EASA's list of approved Third Country Operators (TCO) and is therefore no longer permited to enter European Airspace.

All aircraft (i.e. UR-CZZ and UR-CNT) have been ferried or are being ferried back to base in Chernivtsi, Ukraine.


It is true, I just checked!

https://www.easa.europa.eu/download/tco-lists/TCO%...


Edited by RobbyJ on Saturday 5th October 14:15
Heard something noisy going over the office late last week and FlightRadar had it as an AN-12 coming into Liverpool.

CharlieH89

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189 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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2fast748 said:
Heard something noisy going over the office late last week and FlightRadar had it as an AN-12 coming into Liverpool.
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Seen the plane at 3pm leaving Speke. Very smokey and noisy.


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Greendubber

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227 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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That's flown over my house loads of times, always hear it as it's so loud.

2fast748

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219 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Currently sat at Liverpool. Wish I could be here to see it go.

Eta another pic.

After taxiing passed it you can see it's missing part of the leading edge of the port wing.

Edited by 2fast748 on Monday 28th October 15:50

RobbyJ

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Wednesday 29th April 2020
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Well they are flying again, does anyone know if they got their licence back or are they somehow operating outside the EU now?

Edit: Just checked, they are NOT in the EASA list of approved operators.

Edited by RobbyJ on Wednesday 29th April 07:13