Going to view a petrol Quashqai and a CRV tomorrow. Advice?
Discussion
Hi guys,
We need a cheap runabout for the wife and kids.
She wants either a CRV or A quashqai.
Going to view a 2009 2.0 Tekna Quashqai+2
And then a 2010 148bhp 2.0 I-VTEC EX.
Has to be a petrol, no to diesel.
I gather the AWD in the CRV is woeful? The Quashqai uses the same tech as the Xtrail and is superior?
We are between Scotland and Middle England on a regular basis and have never been caught out in the crazy snow the North gets at times.
Then again we did have a discovery sport for a few years.
Anyone have experience on either of these as family all round vehicles.
Thanks
We need a cheap runabout for the wife and kids.
She wants either a CRV or A quashqai.
Going to view a 2009 2.0 Tekna Quashqai+2
And then a 2010 148bhp 2.0 I-VTEC EX.
Has to be a petrol, no to diesel.
I gather the AWD in the CRV is woeful? The Quashqai uses the same tech as the Xtrail and is superior?
We are between Scotland and Middle England on a regular basis and have never been caught out in the crazy snow the North gets at times.
Then again we did have a discovery sport for a few years.
Anyone have experience on either of these as family all round vehicles.
Thanks
joropug said:
Despite their popularity everyone I know who has a qashqai in the family hates it and has had loads of problems !
We had a Qashqai for a couple of years, 2014 facelift model. I will NEVER own another Nissan again as a result. Loads of electrical and some mechanical issues, but it was the service (or lack of) at our local dealership, coupled with the worst customer service I’ve ever experienced at Nissan HQ, which has put me off every owning anything from Nissan again.A shame as the car itself was fairly practical, cheap to run (£30/yr tax for 1.6D), and well specced, although was not nice to drive
Edited by juggsy on Saturday 5th October 22:28
Crv for me, we've got the next model though. But still, it's a great car. Everything about the car feels well screwed together even at above av mileage nothing feels worn out and noisey. I'd have another one. We did look at a +2, looked a bit small inside and a bit cheap. Although the big sunroof was a big plus.
The 3rd Gen CRV uses a dual pump AWD system which is slightly better than the 4th Gen electronic one as the latter is simply a lightweight driving aid and its overheat protection shuts it down before it can be of any use in even a slight off road situation. They are both open diff systems anyway with no ABS trickery to effectively fool it to operate like a limited slip diff setup, which you'll find with a lot of modern awd systems.
But in snow with at least all season tyres, but better with winter tyres, it will give you an edge over a fwd car and also in heavy rain when cornering and pulling away.
Don't touch an auto, it's a dated 5 speed transmission and very irritating to drive on the motorway due to the lack of low down torque, you'll find yourself constantly kicking down just to keep up with any form of accelerating traffic above 60mph. However, it's a very reliable engine and easy maintenence, loads of room in the engine bay and lots of aftermarket parts.
Be prepared for cabin rattles, it's a Honda trait thanks to so much trim using clips and push fits rather than screws. EX is the one to go for, good spec and excellent leather seats. The kind you sit in rather than sit on. They are also at the perfect height for sliding due to being level with your bum so no climbing up or falling down into them.
Handsfree isn't the easiest to setup and you have to manual program in numbers as it can't read your address book. The 4th gen can and also comes with features such auto dipping side mirror when reverse parking and auto folding mirrors. The 3rd gen are manual power fold mirrors but only work with the ignition on which is stupid because you don't want them folded until after you've opened the door.
Boot is big and rear seats slide and recline. HID lights are a bit poor and warm, better bulbs may sort this. 4th gen pre-facelift have bi-xeons and very good, plus pedestrian cornering lights. Interior is much better in the 4th gen.
All in all, the 3rd gen are very cheap now and offer a lot of car for the money. If you want any kind of decent performance but still want reasonable economy then I'd look for for something else which is a turbocharged petrol.
Manual gearbox fluid change is easy and rear diff fluid change is very easy, but you'll need a big syringe to get the fluid in. It's square drive plugs and always open the fill plug first. Can't stress enough to always use genuine Honda fluids for transmission and especially the rear diff. Engine uses 0W20 and a good brand recommended. I think you can use 0W30 but it prefers the former.
When testing do some full lock turns and listen out for a whine, if you hear it then it just needs the rear diff fluid changing. Also check the shock absorber dust covers aren't split, quite common and is pulled up at an mot.
The 3rd and 4th gen CRV were built in Swindon so you can get the odd one with problems but generally speaking if they've been maintained properly you should only really expect suspension stuff such as bushes, shocks etc.
But in snow with at least all season tyres, but better with winter tyres, it will give you an edge over a fwd car and also in heavy rain when cornering and pulling away.
Don't touch an auto, it's a dated 5 speed transmission and very irritating to drive on the motorway due to the lack of low down torque, you'll find yourself constantly kicking down just to keep up with any form of accelerating traffic above 60mph. However, it's a very reliable engine and easy maintenence, loads of room in the engine bay and lots of aftermarket parts.
Be prepared for cabin rattles, it's a Honda trait thanks to so much trim using clips and push fits rather than screws. EX is the one to go for, good spec and excellent leather seats. The kind you sit in rather than sit on. They are also at the perfect height for sliding due to being level with your bum so no climbing up or falling down into them.
Handsfree isn't the easiest to setup and you have to manual program in numbers as it can't read your address book. The 4th gen can and also comes with features such auto dipping side mirror when reverse parking and auto folding mirrors. The 3rd gen are manual power fold mirrors but only work with the ignition on which is stupid because you don't want them folded until after you've opened the door.
Boot is big and rear seats slide and recline. HID lights are a bit poor and warm, better bulbs may sort this. 4th gen pre-facelift have bi-xeons and very good, plus pedestrian cornering lights. Interior is much better in the 4th gen.
All in all, the 3rd gen are very cheap now and offer a lot of car for the money. If you want any kind of decent performance but still want reasonable economy then I'd look for for something else which is a turbocharged petrol.
Manual gearbox fluid change is easy and rear diff fluid change is very easy, but you'll need a big syringe to get the fluid in. It's square drive plugs and always open the fill plug first. Can't stress enough to always use genuine Honda fluids for transmission and especially the rear diff. Engine uses 0W20 and a good brand recommended. I think you can use 0W30 but it prefers the former.
When testing do some full lock turns and listen out for a whine, if you hear it then it just needs the rear diff fluid changing. Also check the shock absorber dust covers aren't split, quite common and is pulled up at an mot.
The 3rd and 4th gen CRV were built in Swindon so you can get the odd one with problems but generally speaking if they've been maintained properly you should only really expect suspension stuff such as bushes, shocks etc.
Edited by ninjag on Saturday 5th October 23:25
The Lexus RX350 also springs to mind. Great reliability, nice interior and the bigger engine will be far better suited whilst the economy isn't far off the CRV because you'll be pushing the CRV harder on the motorway.
This seems a nice one
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Or stick with a brand you know and not worry about snow either
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
This seems a nice one
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Or stick with a brand you know and not worry about snow either
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
ninjag said:
The 3rd and 4th gen CRV were built in Swindon so you can get the odd one with problems but generally speaking if they've been maintained properly you should only really expect suspension stuff such as bushes, shocks etc.
My 3rd gen needed a set of front drive shafts as I experienced a lateral vibration under acceleration, it was out of warranty but Honda UK contributed 50% of the cost.Nothing rattled inside, ever. Bluetooth was indeed very poor.
I’d have another.
Nissan=rust.
Look underneath the rear at the subframe and all that's connected to it, it will no doubt look like the titanic under there.
Open the tailgate and have a look around the aperture edges, where the wiring looms come through, can go rotten here also.
Just crap really.
Nissan have lost the plot regarding rustproofing, now that they are basically Renault's in a dress.
Look underneath the rear at the subframe and all that's connected to it, it will no doubt look like the titanic under there.
Open the tailgate and have a look around the aperture edges, where the wiring looms come through, can go rotten here also.
Just crap really.
Nissan have lost the plot regarding rustproofing, now that they are basically Renault's in a dress.
Deerfoot said:
My 3rd gen needed a set of front drive shafts as I experienced a lateral vibration under acceleration, it was out of warranty but Honda UK contributed 50% of the cost.
Nothing rattled inside, ever. Bluetooth was indeed very poor.
I’d have another.
You must have got lucky regarding the rattles, although it's more buzzing etc that I mean and I tend to tune into these things on an ocd level lol. My family and I have had loads of Honda cars and they all did it, but some felt pads usually did the trick. Lots of people on Honda forums also complain of it.Nothing rattled inside, ever. Bluetooth was indeed very poor.
I’d have another.
Have to admit it's something which my BMW never suffered nor Jaguar.
But even so the 3rd gen crv really is a good car for the money. Personally I'd rather have an 8th gen Accord Tourer in 2.4 petrol, built in Japan and incredibly reliable engine whilst has reasonable performance. They really should have put the 2.4 in the CRV for the uk market, the Americans got it.
ninjag said:
Deerfoot said:
My 3rd gen needed a set of front drive shafts as I experienced a lateral vibration under acceleration, it was out of warranty but Honda UK contributed 50% of the cost.
Nothing rattled inside, ever. Bluetooth was indeed very poor.
I’d have another.
You must have got lucky regarding the rattles, although it's more buzzing etc that I mean and I tend to tune into these things on an ocd level lol. My family and I have had loads of Honda cars and they all did it, but some felt pads usually did the trick. Lots of people on Honda forums also complain of it.Nothing rattled inside, ever. Bluetooth was indeed very poor.
I’d have another.
Have to admit it's something which my BMW never suffered nor Jaguar.
But even so the 3rd gen crv really is a good car for the money. Personally I'd rather have an 8th gen Accord Tourer in 2.4 petrol, built in Japan and incredibly reliable engine whilst has reasonable performance. They really should have put the 2.4 in the CRV for the uk market, the Americans got it.
other than that, CRV every time over nissan.
t one when he saw oneninjag said:
You must have got lucky regarding the rattles, although it's more buzzing etc that I mean and I tend to tune into these things on an ocd level lol. My family and I have had loads of Honda cars and they all did it, but some felt pads usually did the trick. Lots of people on Honda forums also complain of it.
I've had two Accords, a Jazz and an FR-V. Only the Jazz rattled, it was the rear seat back and was cured by wrapping some insulation tape around the locking mechanism pin. Ironically my Jazz was an early Mk2, made in Japan, not Swindon.Gassing Station | Car Buying | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff